What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thread)

[Vukasin]

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I've been continuing fallout equestria. I think I've realized the biggest fuckup that lead to the destruction of equestria, making fluttershy a ministry mare. She fucked up, she fucked up badly. AJ was the only one that had any sort of business running a government. The rest weren't as bad of fuckups when it came to running the ministries, however they were still pretty bad. Fluttershy's fuckups not only were the worst, they made the rest of the mane 6's fuckups look like child's play in comparison.

Pretty much. Fluttershy's fuck up fucked everybody up.

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Pretty much. Fluttershy's fuck up fucked everybody up.

Ministry of peace my shiny metal ass.


Also back to what hasbro has told us about season 3, since Octavia is going to get a speaking role what are the chances do you think of another background character being bumped up to a regular character? For instance what are the chances that characters like lyra, octavia, vinyl scratch or such could become minor or supporting characters?

 

[Cain]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Ministry of peace my shiny metal ass.


Also back to what hasbro has told us about season 3, since Octavia is going to get a speaking role what are the chances do you think of another background character being bumped up to a regular character? For instance what are the chances that characters like lyra, octavia, vinyl scratch or such could become minor or supporting characters?

They're not going to give us too much fanservice, but I'd like to see them sidle up to the fanon characters/ships.
I'm really curious if they decide to actually pair anypony together, even if it's not, say, OctaviaScratch or Bon Bon & Lyra, but I'd still like to see some non-manufactured love in the show

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

They're not going to give us too much fanservice, but I'd like to see them sidle up to the fanon characters/ships.
I'm really curious if they decide to actually pair anypony together, even if it's not, say, OctaviaScratch or Bon Bon & Lyra, but I'd still like to see some non-manufactured love in the show

Chances are no. Foxnews would have a field day if two same sex characters were shipped. Hasbro would have to be unbelievably stealthy to get away with it though. Like how during season 2 finale there was that kiss sound effect when rainbow picked up fluttershy. Also there's the fact even though the majority of the viewers are adults or close to it, it's still a kid's show.

So chances are there won't be, but I'd like for there to be.

 

[Carnie]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Ministry of peace my shiny metal ass.


Also back to what hasbro has told us about season 3, since Octavia is going to get a speaking role what are the chances do you think of another background character being bumped up to a regular character? For instance what are the chances that characters like lyra, octavia, vinyl scratch or such could become minor or supporting characters?

I could see vinyl scratch getting a small speaking role actually. The other background ponies? Who knows!

I just want my scoots x RD episode.
And maybe a little Gilda. Or a lot of Gilda, that would be fine too.

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Well now I think I've figured out the moral of fallout equestria- "overdependence on something as a society nerfs your ability to adapt to changes with time"

Spoiler: what I think

the obvious thing I would say about this would be that the megaspells and fluttershy fucked up badly. However Red Eyes' stable shows that ponies are way to relient on magic and pegasus for their needs. His basic idea of using the earth pony way actually does make sense. If you look at the tv show there's a ton of iconoclastic technology, such as there's been quick images of tv's and once a van, but the problem is they have the mentality of "welp we have <insert problem here> let's solve it with magic.

Had they not gone down the path of overdependence on magic and coal chances are the war would have just dragged on and wound up in a armistace. If it wasn't for their overdependence on magic megaspells would never have been developed and thus the world wouldn't have ended. If it wasn't for their overdependence on magic the pink cloud would in canterlot would have never been created and celestia and luna would still be alive.

 

[Vinyl]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Well now I think I've figured out the moral of fallout equestria- "overdependence on something as a society nerfs your ability to adapt to changes with time"

Spoiler: what I think

the obvious thing I would say about this would be that the megaspells and fluttershy fucked up badly. However Red Eyes' stable shows that ponies are way to relient on magic and pegasus for their needs. His basic idea of using the earth pony way actually does make sense. If you look at the tv show there's a ton of iconoclastic technology, such as there's been quick images of tv's and once a van, but the problem is they have the mentality of "welp we have <insert problem here> let's solve it with magic.

Had they not gone down the path of overdependence on magic and coal chances are the war would have just dragged on and wound up in a armistace. If it wasn't for their overdependence on magic megaspells would never have been developed and thus the world wouldn't have ended. If it wasn't for their overdependence on magic the pink cloud would in canterlot would have never been created and celestia and luna would still be alive.

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Huh... I'm not too sure about all that. Red Eye seemed to be against the earth pony way by itself, and promoted that magic, whatever it's flaws, is still very useful. His example with the poison was a good one. He does rather point out that without magic, some of the advancements made would likely take centuries, or not be discovered at all, or require some insane apparatus. Levitation is a good example. Humans cannot levitate, and we'll likely need to invent some insane apparatus to do so in a century or two (If we haven't got it already, and if we have, it's rare enough that I've never heard of it.), while a unicorn can just apply their horn to the task.

Also, I kinda doubt that the use of coal was a purely unicorn and pegasi idea. Sounds more earth pony-ish to me, even more so when you consider that they are the ones with trains and the like, which deliver and run on coal, and don't seem to involve magic at all. And megaspells would not have been invented if there was no magic, yes, but magic alone wasn't needed to destroy the world. We humans have no magic, and we have atomic bombs, which are equally destructive, but unlike megaspells, cannot be used for other uses such as the healing they were first put to work on. I think magic may just have sped it up, and added more variety to the bombs. The rate of progress in Equestria does seem to go at a relatively enormous rate compared to non-magical human invention. And the pink cloud was made by zebras, who lack magic completely. Since the magic did not come from them, it is fair to say an earth pony could have made the same innovation, if they worked at it.

 

[Cain]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Chances are no. Foxnews would have a field day if two same sex characters were shipped. Hasbro would have to be unbelievably stealthy to get away with it though. Like how during season 2 finale there was that kiss sound effect when rainbow picked up fluttershy. Also there's the fact even though the majority of the viewers are adults or close to it, it's still a kid's show.

So chances are there won't be, but I'd like for there to be.

*sigh*
If only someone would challenge Fox's republican bias with a giant middle finger and some LGBT programming.
Although I can still see couples/love within the speaking role characters, even with it being a kids show. It just had to be completely platonic :V

 

[Hakar Kerarmor]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Hasbro would have to be unbelievably stealthy to get away with it though.

Lyra loves to share bonbon(s) with Golden Harvest.
In the park.

 

[Cain]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Lyra loves to share bonbon(s) with Golden Harvest.
In the park.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BEST DOUBLE ENTENDRE EVER.

 

[Conker]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

They're not going to give us too much fanservice, but I'd like to see them sidle up to the fanon characters/ships.
I'm really curious if they decide to actually pair anypony together, even if it's not, say, OctaviaScratch or Bon Bon & Lyra, but I'd still like to see some non-manufactured love in the show

God no, keep that shit out.

 

[Cain]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

God no, keep that shit out.

Would you prefer one of the worst ships? Like spikexgranny smith, or Big MacxAJ (uuugh) ?
Pretty much all of the characters have been shipped one way or another.
It may never happen, but I'd still like to see some subtle acknowledgement of a fanon ship xD

 

[Carnie]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Would you prefer one of the worst ships? Like spikexgranny smith, or Big MacxAJ (uuugh) ?
Pretty much all of the characters have been shipped one way or another.
It may never happen, but I'd still like to see some subtle acknowledgement of a fanon ship xD

whywhywhywhwhywhywhywhy getoutofmyhead

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

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Huh... I'm not too sure about all that. Red Eye seemed to be against the earth pony way by itself, and promoted that magic, whatever it's flaws, is still very useful. His example with the poison was a good one. He does rather point out that without magic, some of the advancements made would likely take centuries, or not be discovered at all, or require some insane apparatus. Levitation is a good example. Humans cannot levitate, and we'll likely need to invent some insane apparatus to do so in a century or two (If we haven't got it already, and if we have, it's rare enough that I've never heard of it.), while a unicorn can just apply their horn to the task.

Also, I kinda doubt that the use of coal was a purely unicorn and pegasi idea. Sounds more earth pony-ish to me, even more so when you consider that they are the ones with trains and the like, which deliver and run on coal, and don't seem to involve magic at all. And megaspells would not have been invented if there was no magic, yes, but magic alone wasn't needed to destroy the world. We humans have no magic, and we have atomic bombs, which are equally destructive, but unlike megaspells, cannot be used for other uses such as the healing they were first put to work on. I think magic may just have sped it up, and added more variety to the bombs. The rate of progress in Equestria does seem to go at a relatively enormous rate compared to non-magical human invention. And the pink cloud was made by zebras, who lack magic completely. Since the magic did not come from them, it is fair to say an earth pony could have made the same innovation, if they worked at it.

However the problem is that megaspells were invented with good intentions. They started off with healing spells, but rainbow was the first to see just how bad of a idea it really was.
The megaspell technology should have been buried in a hole and never spoken of again. Or if failing that used as a bomb right off the bat to end the war. Like how in WWII we nuked hiroshima and nagasaki as soon as we could and because the japanese didn't have nuclear capability yet they couldn't retaliate.

The single biggest mistake was that fluttershy fucked up not realizing the megaspells were going to be used for weaponry eventually. Had Applejack's ministry developed it instead the outcome would have been very different.

 

[Vukasin]

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And maybe a little Gilda. Or a lot of Gilda, that would be fine too.

Yes please.

 

[CannonFodder]

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Yes please.

I agree.
Gilda barely qualifies as a anatagonist, so a character redemption wouldn't be out of place.

 

[Heimdal]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

I've been continuing fallout equestria. I think I've realized the biggest fuckup that lead to the destruction of equestria, making fluttershy a ministry mare. She fucked up, she fucked up badly. AJ was the only one that had any sort of business running a government. The rest weren't as bad of fuckups when it came to running the ministries, however they were still pretty bad. Fluttershy's fuckups not only were the worst, they made the rest of the mane 6's fuckups look like child's play in comparison.

Nah. Fluttershy ended the war, just not exactly how she wanted. Frankly, none of the mane 6 in FoE really 'screwed up'. The path was already set, they just failed to present a friendshippy solution before it all went up in flames. It doesn't matter that the two sides were capable of mutually assured destruction, it matters that neither side was so hesitant to do it. That made it inevitable.

Their biggest failing was separating from each other. Their elements of harmony were still there, they just used them individually, and ultimately inneffectively without the balance of each other. They all had plans to end the war, and it seemed possible that any one of them could have been tempered and accomplished just that, if they worked together instead of apart.

That's how I saw it, and I figure that's what the authors intent was too.

Unless you read Project Horizons, where they had morality issues and Goldenblood was ultimately responsible for everything good they did, and everything ever. I like PH, except Goldenblood is a really shitty character.

 

[Conker]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Would you prefer one of the worst ships? Like spikexgranny smith, or Big MacxAJ (uuugh) ?
Pretty much all of the characters have been shipped one way or another.
It may never happen, but I'd still like to see some subtle acknowledgement of a fanon ship xD

Doesn't belong in the show. Keep that shit regulated to image boards and Deviantart where it belongs

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Nah. Fluttershy ended the war, just not exactly how she wanted. Frankly, none of the mane 6 in FoE really 'screwed up'. The path was already set, they just failed to present a friendshippy solution before it all went up in flames. It doesn't matter that the two sides were capable of mutually assured destruction, it matters that neither side was so hesitant to do it. That made it inevitable.

Their biggest failing was separating from each other. Their elements of harmony were still there, they just used them individually, and ultimately inneffectively without the balance of each other. They all had plans to end the war, and it seemed possible that any one of them could have been tempered and accomplished just that, if they worked together instead of apart.

That's how I saw it, and I figure that's what the authors intent was too.

Unless you read Project Horizons, where they had morality issues and Goldenblood was ultimately responsible for everything good they did, and everything ever. I like PH, except Goldenblood is a really shitty character.

Don't spoil project horizons for me :\


Well in my opinion fluttershy doomed equestria cause she was the one who developed the technology to create megaspells and such. Had there been nukes instead of megaspells there wouldn't have been taint, ghouls, and probably celestia and luna would still be alive.

 

[Heimdal]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Well in my opinion fluttershy doomed equestria cause she was the one who developed the technology to create megaspells and such. Had there been nukes instead of megaspells there wouldn't have been taint, ghouls, and probably celestia and luna would still be alive.

If it was nukes instead, it would just be Fallout 3. Fluttershy made a mistake, but she didn't give them bombs, they are responsible for doing that themselves.

Don't worry, I'm just calling Goldenblood a blackhole sue. I won't spoil anything that you'd actually read PH story for.

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

If it was nukes instead, it would just be Fallout 3. Fluttershy made a mistake, but she didn't give them bombs, they are responsible for doing that themselves.

Ever hear the phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"?
She may not have made the bombs, but her megahealing spells also healed the zebras which had the war drag on even worse. Also with her research the pink cloud was possible. Had megaspells not been invented Celestia and Luna would have survived. She may not have intended for it to be used as weaponry, but she had no business being a ministry mare. Her kindness is what blinded her to the realities of war.

Think of it analogy wise as the difference between Marie Curie and J. Robert Oppenheimer. Marie Curie knew what was going to happen and refused to travel down that path. Oppenheimer should have known better, but instead he is known as the father of a-bomb.

Tl:dr; ignorance to the realities of war is no excuse.

 

[Conker]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

From what I've gathered from this current conversation, Fallout Equestria could have actually been something worth selling if the author hadn't made it about ponies.

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

From what I've gathered from this current conversation, Fallout Equestria could have actually been something worth selling if the author hadn't made it about ponies.

It would be double trademark infringement to sell it in book form.

 

[Conker]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

It would be double trademark infringement to sell it in book form.

No shit. That's why I said what I said. You make it about something not ponies and change the name, and it's a novel that could be sold in book form. Unless it follows the Fallout storyline beat by beat, but then that's just lazy on the author's part. If not, then it's just post apocalyptic fiction

 

[Heimdal]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

No shit. That's why I said what I said. You make it about something not ponies and change the name, and it's a novel that could be sold in book form. Unless it follows the Fallout storyline beat by beat, but then that's just lazy on the author's part. If not, then it's just post apocalyptic fiction

It's a fusion story. It has a lot built right off of MLP canon, and a ton of ideas specifically related to Fallout. It doesn't really copy from either, but I don't think it'd work too well if it discarded both. The links it draws are handled well, and are fairly apparent.

Spoiler: Mane 6 FoE

Cannonfodder, yes the road to hell is paved in good intentions, but that doesn't just describe Fluttershy. Twilight made a goddess that threatened to ruin the future. Rainbow Dash made something that only managed to allow the Pegasus to hide, seal the sun away, and abandon the surface for so long. Rarity used dark magic and burned books. Pinkie became a paranoid druggy. And AJ actually developed all the weapons used in the war. They each played their parts in wrecking up the world.