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What would You change in the Furry "Community"?

Shmallow

Shmallow

Member
When I first discovered e621 and all of its unending supply of anthro imagery, my thoughts were:
"This is the best "community" ever!" - Shmallow, 2012

However, as time went by and my still childish mind developed into today's, 18 year old "adult" one, I've come to several realizations -- not everything is quite as I'd like it to be.

So I was wondering: What would You like to see changed in the years to come? What do you think is "Not Good" or "Sucky"?

I'm personally very disappointed at how some individuals in this sub-culture get offended by certain types of depictions on their websites. 2016 is the year of the Offended Tiger, and it certainly showed. Most notably, I remember when [A Very Prominent Furry Porn Artist] drew up a story portraying a functionally-dysfunctional family, riddled with 'unconventional' fetishes and 'shady' characters. While most people seemed to enjoy it, there was a group of Negative Nancies lashing out. They criticized the fact that the characters were "underage" (even though 'technically' they weren't) and overall "unappealing". I'm all for constructive criticism, but name-calling and kink-shaming on a very "sexual" website is... odd. There is the occasional thing I dislike, but I'm never compelled to 'strike it down'. Especially if they're gorgeously well made!

The ban on cub porn on FA and some bumps on Inkbunny were annoying, too.

For 2017, the year of the Comprehensive Rooster, I wish to see these changes:
  1. People starting to take drawings, comics and animations less seriously from a "moral" standpoint, and evaluating their quality and artistic consistency instead.

  2. The ability for some people to understand the normality of even the most incomprehensible of kinks in fantasized settings, far from the confines of reality. We can always debate on subjects like bestiality and underage sex IRL - but nothing should be off limits to artists, who harm nobody with their whacky drawings of fictional beings in fictional worlds.

  3. The inclusion of more blacklist functionalities for those who're intolerant of certain themes. This'll help prevent unneeded kink-shaming and controversy between fandoms.

  4. How about we stop "coming out" as furries to our friends and families? A "Gamer" just "likes video games", a "Weeb" just "watches anime" and a Furry simply "likes Anthropomorphology". And if you're a furry artist, just say you're a "Cartoonist" and "Artist". Sheesh.

  5. Less Identity Politics. No, furry is not an "identity", it's an obnoxiously vague description of what you enjoy (Anthropomorphology and Animalistic Attributes). The last thing we need is "Specie-Wars" and more humiliation from the Media: "These people call themselves Furries, but they're not as cuddly as they sound! Tune in to learn more about this dangerous trend and how it might affect YOUR kids."

  6. More anatomically correct penises and vaginas. Is that just me? xD
What about you? I'm interested in reading your comments.
 
V

Very Hairy Larry

dude...
Shmallow said:
then no. I disagree wholeheartedly ^^ I see literally no problem.
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How do you see literally no problem when it's most likely the number one reason why there are furry stereotypes and anti-furries in the first place?

LOLOLOL! How tf do you not see that?? It's the main reason for me personally why I honestly can't tell a single person I am a furry, because they'll end up thinking I do nothing but beat it to foxes. No thanks to yiff...
 
Shmallow

Shmallow

Member
Very Hairy Larry said:
How do you see literally no problem when it's most likely the number one reason why there are furry stereotypes and anti-furries in the first place?

LOLOLOL! How tf do you not see that?? It's the main reason for me personally why I honestly can't tell a single person I am a furry, because they'll end up thinking I do nothing but beat it to foxes. No thanks to yiff...
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That's just as dumb as saying "Weebs are pervs because plenty of anime is weirdly sexualized and fancervicy". If pornography artists make money off of their works, then it's because there are plenty of people who are enjoying that content (content that, mind you, isn't harming anybody in the process of being created). So no, there is no inherent problem with "Yiff".

Hentai is a sub-genre of Anime, and Yiff is a sub-genre of Furry art. So that's that.

Edit: Also, "Furry" isn't an identity. You just like fluffy cartoon characters and their animalistic features, like tails and cat ears, or fur on their bodies, snouts, etc. etc. etc.
 
Yakamaru

Yakamaru

Å nei, cringe
TheOneRealPotato said:
Yiff must end. That shizz ain't right.
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Rule 34. Learn to deal with it, get off the internet or avoid it entirely. Personally I'm quite happy with all the extra additions to my porn collection. Makes it a whole lot more spicy.
Very Hairy Larry said:
How do you see literally no problem when it's most likely the number one reason why there are furry stereotypes and anti-furries in the first place?

LOLOLOL! How tf do you not see that?? It's the main reason for me personally why I honestly can't tell a single person I am a furry, because they'll end up thinking I do nothing but beat it to foxes. No thanks to yiff...
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Assumptions won't get you anywhere. Also, I thought I told you NOT to listen to morons nor care about their opinions?

Also, learn the fucking difference between feral and anthro and the different stages. You are clearly completely lacking in this department.

OT: I don't really want to change anything. The fandom is fine as it is. I say fandom because this isn't a community. Literally the only thing we have in common is our liking of anthropomorphic animals.

I am not interested in controlling what others do, say or think.
 
Shmallow

Shmallow

Member
Yakamaru said:
Rule 34. Learn to deal with it, get off the internet or avoid it entirely. Personally I'm quite happy with all the extra additions to my porn collection. Makes it a whole lot more spicy.

Assumptions won't get you anywhere. Also, I thought I told you NOT to listen to morons nor care about their opinions?

Also, learn the fucking difference between feral and anthro and the different stages. You are clearly completely lacking in this department.

OT: I don't really want to change anything. The fandom is fine as it is. I say fandom because this isn't a community. Literally the only thing we have in common is our liking of anthropomorphic animals.

I am not interested in controlling what others do, say or think.
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Yeah, that's exactly why every time I say "Community" it's between quotes. I don't like calling it a fandom, since there's nothing to be a fan of. It's a tad too vague.
And I'm also not saying I want to force people to change - but, you know, theoretically, if you imagined a "perfect" community, how would it differ from the current one? That was more what I meant. Thanks for replying ^^
 
V

Very Hairy Larry

dude...
Shmallow said:
That's just as dumb as saying "Weebs are pervs because plenty of anime is weirdly sexualized and fancervicy". If pornography artists make money off of their works, then it's because there are plenty of people who are enjoying that content (content that, mind you, isn't harming anybody in the process of being created). So no, there is no inherent problem with "Yiff".

Hentai is a sub-genre of Anime, and Yiff is a sub-genre of Furry art. So that's that.

Edit: Also, "Furry" isn't an identity. You just like fluffy cartoon characters and their animalistic features, like tails and cat ears, or fur on their bodies, snouts, etc. etc. etc.
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Yakamaru said:
Rule 34. Learn to deal with it, get off the internet or avoid it entirely. Personally I'm quite happy with all the extra additions to my porn collection. Makes it a whole lot more spicy.

Assumptions won't get you anywhere. Also, I thought I told you NOT to listen to morons nor care about their opinions?

Also, learn the fucking difference between feral and anthro and the different stages. You are clearly completely lacking in this department.

OT: I don't really want to change anything. The fandom is fine as it is. I say fandom because this isn't a community. Literally the only thing we have in common is our liking of anthropomorphic animals.

I am not interested in controlling what others do, say or think.
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Alright, alright, alright. Everyone chill tf out. hs

You're right when assumptions wont get me anywhere. Sorry that I'm "completely lacking in this department." Doesn't really seem that important to me, sry.
I just saw that he said "literally no problem" when I could list a few. But ye, I guess I let that get ahead of me and I wasn't really thoroughly thinking.


























Hey, but at least I wasn't like, "MY experience, MY evidence" right? I'm not that fuckin retarded.
 
V

Very Hairy Larry

dude...
I'm basically saying you guys are right and that I just wasn't even thinking. I just kind of let that get ahead of me.



























At least I didn't say I was "joking." lol
 
Yakamaru

Yakamaru

Å nei, cringe
Shmallow said:
Yeah, that's exactly why every time I say "Community" it's between quotes. I don't like calling it a fandom, since there's nothing to be a fan of. It's a tad too vague.
And I'm also not saying I want to force people to change - but, you know, theoretically, if you imagined a "perfect" community, how would it differ from the current one? That was more what I meant. Thanks for replying ^^
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Ah, like that. Being a fan of anthropomorphic animals make you a Furry. Which is why I use the term fandom and not community. It's also meant to be vague, same way being a Trekkie is only belonging to a fandom, namely that of Star Trek. It's not meant to say jack shit about what you like, dislike, your connections, etc.

To answer the question:

1. There'd be no fucking snowflakes, SJW's, transtrenders, attention whores and easily offended fucks ruining it for everyone else. This identity politics GARBAGE have gone too far and it's already ruining children's futures
2. People actually knew about, understood and adhered to common sense, privacy and common human decency
3. For more niche art, SFW and NSFW alike, there'd be more dedicated and/or more private groups for them. Getting spammed with gore, cub, vore, dismemberment porn etc is NOT exactly enticing. In fact, I find most of it revolting
4. People would act like ADULTS when confronted with whatever they were doing/saying and held accountable for their shit

Very Hairy Larry said:
Alright, alright, alright. Everyone chill tf out. hs

You're right when assumptions wont get me anywhere. Sorry that I'm "completely lacking in this department." Doesn't really seem that important to me, sry.
I just saw that he said "literally no problem" when I could list a few. But ye, I guess I let that get ahead of me and I wasn't really thoroughly thinking.
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Think before you type. :p

For all you know he's not seen the.. darker side of the fandom and the hellspawn it creates that you'd rather nuke from orbit? Repeatedly? Which might be the reason why he said "literally no problem". What is a problem for you might not be a problem for him.

Gotta take personal views into account. :p
 
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Shmallow

Shmallow

Member
Yakamaru said:
Ah, like that. Being a fan of anthropomorphic animals make you a Furry. Which is why I use the term fandom and not community. It's also meant to be vague, same way being a Trekkie is only belonging to a fandom, namely that of Star Trek. It's not meant to say jack shit about what you like, dislike, your connections, etc.

To answer the question:

1. There'd be no fucking snowflakes, SJW's, transtrenders, attention whores and easily offended fucks ruining it for everyone else. This identity politics GARBAGE have gone too far and it's already ruining children's futures
2. People actually knew about, understood and adhered to common sense, privacy and common human decency
3. For more niche art, SFW and NSFW alike, there'd be more dedicated and/or more private groups for them. Getting spammed with gore, cub, vore, dismemberment porn etc is NOT exactly enticing. In fact, I find most of it revolting
4. People would act like ADULTS when confronted with whatever they were doing/saying and held accountable for their shit
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Transgenderism isn't bad on it's own. It's just the SJW portion of it that is annoying. Futanaris are quite popular in the Yiffy sections, it's just not something I personally like myself.
And when it comes to "Groups", I think it's a good idea. But, then again, a Porn artist can occasionally draw very meaningful and adorable SFW pictures, so it's not the artist we should be categorizing, but the art itself. Perhaps when asked if something is "Explicit", there should be other checkmarks like "Cub" and "Vore". By checking them, they will automatically be hidden from anybody who's revolted by those.

I'm actually more disturbed by the HORRIBLE "art" that's on FA and DeviantArt. MS Paint stuff. Cub porn is all right, especially if everybody is enjoying the fun. Orgasms 4 the kids, am I right? As long as there are no IRL consequences, it's OK in my book.
 
Yakamaru

Yakamaru

Å nei, cringe
Shmallow said:
Transgenderism isn't bad on it's own. It's just the SJW portion of it that is annoying.
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I said transtrenders, not transgenders. Transtrenders are only using the label to get attention. I HATE attention whores, especially if they use other labels just to get attention.

If you want to transition to the opposite sex you are free to do so IF you are of legal age(18+) and genuinely feel you are not comfortable with the gender you were born with. What I can't stand are people and fucking parents brainwashing their children with this crap. It's child abuse and any parents doing this should have their parental rights taken away.

Shmallow said:
Futanaris are quite popular in the Yiffy sections, it's just not something I personally like myself.
And when it comes to "Groups", I think it's a good idea. But, then again, a Porn artist can occasionally draw very meaningful and adorable SFW pictures, so it's not the artist we should be categorizing, but the art itself. Perhaps when asked if something is "Explicit", there should be other checkmarks like "Cub" and "Vore". By checking them, they will automatically be hidden from anybody who's revolted by those.
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One of the reasons I use only e621.net for my needs. Sort by tags and artists who does a lot of good art. Make an account and you can add tags you don't want to see like for instance gore, vore, vomit, cub, etc.
Shmallow said:
I'm actually more disturbed by the HORRIBLE "art" that's on FA and DeviantArt. MS Paint stuff. Cub porn is all right, especially if everybody is enjoying the fun. Orgasms 4 the kids, am I right? As long as there are no IRL consequences, it's OK in my book.
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Everyone have different skills at drawing. Some suck, some are good. How young would you go before your statement "Orgasms 4 the kids" is null and void? 13?

Kids needs to be taught properly about sex, sexuality and the consequences that might pop up along with the potential dangers. Back in my day we did get properly educated on it when we were 13, almost 14. Dunno how it's currently though. But to teach this shit to anyone younger than 12/13 would be meaningless.
 
C.Y.AN

C.Y.AN

I am an omelet.
I would like for sex to no longer be the no.1 way to become a popufur.
I'm not saying I dislike sex, hell I love it. BUT- people fuck their way into popularity, they become like pornographers, it's a horrible taint on the reputation of communities everywhere.
 
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