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What would You change in the Furry "Community"?

nerdbat

Green butt of reason
Ah, indeed, a tough problem. In a sense, I believe that no art should be stigmatized or filtered out, but it's not easy to plow through feces in order to find a good amateur image. Steam is currently having issues with shitty games, where the shop is being utterly drowned in dumb projects made by teens and trolls for an easy buck. There HAS to be some sort of filter, at least for the main pages. Maybe we'll never find a consensus, thus why it'll never happen, but I'm not opposed to the idea of cleaning out what's clearly a low effort piece.

Shenanimation is creative. It's not about the style itself, but the slick linework, an interesting design and, perhaps, even humorous content! I've seen loads of small comic flicks that were VERY simplistic, yet meaningful and insightful to some degree. Sometimes just plain funny! So yeah. Incredibly tough question. We might just let it slide for the time being xD
Now I see where you're coming with that. I'll agree with the "pervy" part, I think it can be fixed by adding some additional filters - there is a SFW one, but it doesn't cover many relatively tame fetishes (like paw fetish or vore), so we still end up with stuff like this on a frontpage. And as for cleaning the artwork out - welp, unlike Steam, there's no market to speak off, and in case with artwork, you can separate good from bad by merely looking at it, without any need to click additional links to see what is it about. And after all, those crappy artists, they're just learning stuff, and in majority of cases they eventually become good ones - just let them hang around with their crappy drawings, they'll get good sooner or later :D And by "filtering" their artwork, we may eventually fall into the same trap as FurNation - novice artists will be basically "bullied" off the site, and we'll get a huge gap between skilled and unskilled ones, something that can discourage many aspiring beginners from joining FA in the first place.
 

PlusThirtyOne

What DOES my username mean...?
I'll quickly throw in an interesting example that's a bit less common:
I'm very dependent on mother, as I'm physically incapable of doing MANY things. However, a part of me REALLY wants to explore the sexual side of art, hence why I'm currently working on some delicious smut. But, given my dependency on my mother, I need to tell her about what I'm doing, and this might be rough. Do you have any ideas?
Well, i'll say this: At least your art is GOOD. it's not sub-par MSPaint cringe doodles.
i guess it all depends on how chill your mother is and how much you depend on her. if you suspect she'll find it awkward, then keep it private. if you have to, keep a sketchbook with "Private" written on it. Keep erotic digital pieces in a separate semi-hidden folder. Work on erotic pieces when she isn't around. if you need her to help you get situated at the computer or get your tools and things together, get everything read BEFORE you need assistance and work on your erotic art AFTER. if you need her to fetch your art tools, have her gather them for you first so she won't see what you're drawing.

Again, it'd help to know what you need assistance with to help you plan ahead but if you've already gotten away with doodlin' smut, then it sounds like you've got things figured out.
 

Shmallow

Member
Now I see where you're coming with that. I'll agree with the "pervy" part, I think it can be fixed by adding some additional filters - there is a SFW one, but it doesn't cover many relatively tame fetishes (like paw fetish or vore), so we still end up with stuff like this on a frontpage. And as for cleaning the artwork out - welp, unlike Steam, there's no market to speak off, and in case with artwork, you can separate good from bad by merely looking at it, without any need to click additional links to see what is it about. And after all, those crappy artists, they're just learning stuff, and in majority of cases they eventually become good ones - just let them hang around with their crappy drawings, they'll get good sooner or later :D And by "filtering" their artwork, we may eventually fall into the same trap as FurNation - novice artists will be basically "bullied" off the site, and we'll get a huge gap between skilled and unskilled ones, something that can discourage many aspiring beginners from joining FA in the first place.

Very true. Honestly, I go on e621 and go through tonnes of very amateur art, but I just skip it if (from the thumbnail) it's not up to my standards. I'm also not bullying amateur MS Painters, I just wish they'd "try harder" xD
 

Shmallow

Member
Again, it'd help to know what you need assistance with to help you plan ahead but if you've already gotten away with doodlin' smut, then it sounds like you've got things figured out.

A part of me just really wants to tell her and not engage in this secrecy. I doubt she'll be too mad, but I'm not sure. We'll see.
 

PlusThirtyOne

What DOES my username mean...?
I'm also not bullying amateur MS Painters, I just wish they'd "try harder" xD
*AHEM* i started with MSPaint and i draw'd me some shmexy pixel tits if i do say so myself.
No, really, i know what you're talking about but my MSPaint arts have been praised for their fappability! LOL
A part of me just really wants to tell her and not engage in this secrecy. I doubt she'll be too mad, but I'm not sure. We'll see.
Just the same. She doesn't need to know your sexual preferences. ...or WANT to know them. it's not a deep dark secret you have to keep. Just be modest about it.
 

Shmallow

Member
*AHEM* i started with MSPaint and i draw'd me some shmexy pixel tits if i do say so myself.
No, really, i know what you're talking about but my MSPaint arts have been praised for their fappability! LOL

Just the same. She doesn't need to know your sexual presences. ...or WANT to know them. it's not a deep dark secret you have to keep. Just be modest about it.

Thanks for the advice. And thank you for the praise! I do think my art is gud~
And I do fap to lots of pixel art. Sometimes pixel art can be EVEN MORE arousing than realism, because of the adorableness xD Tiny pixel boobs, who wouldn't want that?!
 
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Deleted member 82554

Guest
Yeah~ Kind of~ But calling it that makes it sound way too serious. Marxism is a movement, Anthropomorphology is barely one. If one day furries begin an artistic revolution, much like Fauvism or Cubism, then I'll be very much inclined to call it an "orientation" or "movement". Right now, it's just a fandom secluded from the rest of the internet and media.
Still going to have to disagree. As a whole, I'd say the fandom is not an orientation, but that really comes down to how the individual treats it.
 

Shmallow

Member
Still going to have to disagree. As a whole, I'd say the fandom is not an orientation, but that really comes down to how the individual treats it.
You're right, everyone is different. But furries have to push a more "tame" version of their fandom to the media and the "normie world". Same as homosexuality or fauvism, etc. etc. By striking with extreme examples of pornography and weird fetishes, people won't be happy about anthropomorphism, thinking it's directly related to sexuality and zoophilia
 

PlusThirtyOne

What DOES my username mean...?
And I do fap to lots of pixel art.
i'd show you my pixel tits (LOL) but they're under another username i keep private...
On a more serious note, i totally get that. Pixel arts are easier to animate and leave more details to the imagination. i like simplistic, cartoony art so obviously i like pixel sprites and such. Also, i grew up in the 8/16 bit generation and nostalgia and *AHEM* arousal go hand-in-hand.

...or dick-in-hand! Nevermind. Sorry. it had to be said. No it didn't i'm going to sleep now...
:V
 

Badger94

I am the world's forgotten boy
Yiff must end. That shizz ain't right.
Thanks for your opinion HITLER. Lets just put all the yiff furries in concentration camps. You think thats cool theonerealpotato? Well its not. The fuck outta here
 

Badger94

I am the world's forgotten boy
People that use dog toy squeakers , and bird calls as their 'voice' while in suit.
And or a fart that you believe will be silent, but all of a sudden your ass goes rogue on you and the plastic chair youre sitting in dont help either, and that motherfucker squeaks its way out and then you start getting hate looks from everybody. And now the girl you like thinks youre an ass clown and everyone calls you ass clown the gay clown. That was the worst birthday ever. Fuck the 1st grade.
 

Toby_Morpheus

Hello, Proto
Honestly, the problem is just with people themselves. Not necessarily the fandom.

People 'come out' because being a furry is still somewhat taboo and to 'come out' is to increase the numbers of furries within the minds of the people closest to them in a way to try and dispel some negative preconceptions people may have.
It's why people don't 'come out' to people they don't trust or like. Why bother, right?

It would be nice if it wasn't necessary, but the thing is, why should people have to hide who they are?
If their furrydom takes a large portion of their life, they shouldn't have to be held back by those around them.

But we don't live in such an idealistic world, do we?
 

Badger94

I am the world's forgotten boy
Honestly, the problem is just with people themselves. Not necessarily the fandom.

People 'come out' because being a furry is still somewhat taboo and to 'come out' is to increase the numbers of furries within the minds of the people closest to them in a way to try and dispel some negative preconceptions people may have.
It's why people don't 'come out' to people they don't trust or like. Why bother, right?

It would be nice if it wasn't necessary, but the thing is, why should people have to hide who they are?
If their furrydom takes a large portion of their life, they shouldn't have to be held back by those around them.

But we don't live in such an idealistic world, do we?
Wouldnt it be nice if we could wakeup
In the kind of world where we belonged.......
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

Guest
Orientation implies a sort of "lifestyle", and, honestly, furries don't have a "lifestyle" aside from the crazy ones. We don't dedicate our entire existence to being furries, unlike homosexuality or, I dunno, Christianity where one is governed by a set of rules, and his lifestyle is deeply fused with this 'idea' or 'hobby'. (not implying that homosexuality is a choice, merely that it's part of our almost day-to-day life)

Weeaboos might like anime and collect a bunch of plushies, but usually it's not a "lifestyle" or an "orientation". Just a more precise interest in pseudo-japanese culture and artstyles.
Wowowo. Homosexuals? Really? Most gay methand women that I have known don't go out of their ways to promote or express their "homosexuality". Matter of fact, none of them ever have. But that is just the gay folks I know or have known. But I have seen Furries that it is a way of life to them. Our points are going all over the place. To me, my point is that if you want to come out as gay, as a Furry, or a secret unicorn collector, that it is ok, and that we all shouldn't be judgemental of people who do want to do that.
 

TheOneRealPotato

Professional potato in disguise
Thanks for your opinion HITLER. Lets just put all the yiff furries in concentration camps. You think thats cool theonerealpotato? Well its not. The fuck outta here
Whoah, don't you dare accuse me of being a neo-Nazi, I am quarter German and I have family who experienced World War Two firsthand. I'm just saying, the yiff needs to be reduced at least.

And don't tell me to fuck off and call me a xenophobe, whilst you're at it. Nobody likes a dickhead.
 

Toby_Morpheus

Hello, Proto
Wouldnt it be nice if we could wakeup
In the kind of world where we belonged.......
I'm afraid to say, but that kind of thinking can be rather dangerous.
Many, many violent people are ideologues.

Not trying to say that changing the world is an impossible feat, but many people have a tough time figuring out how to go from fantasy to making it a reality.
And that's where the problem occurs.
 

Badger94

I am the world's forgotten boy
Whoah, don't you dare accuse me of being a neo-Nazi, I am quarter German and I have family who experienced World War Two firsthand. I'm just saying, the yiff needs to be reduced at least.

And don't tell me to fuck off and call me a xenophobe, whilst you're at it. Nobody likes a dickhead.
My jokes have gone too far this time. You're right, sorry buddy. I apologize for getting out of hand. Quite often i take things too far for no real reason other than my own amusement. I am not above admitting i was said something i shouldnt have and apologizing. And I respect your opinions. Theonerealpotato I acknowledge that you are a real person on the other side of the keyboard and I appreciate you as a person. I love you
 

Badger94

I am the world's forgotten boy
I'm afraid to say, but that kind of thinking can be rather dangerous.
Many, many violent people are ideologues.

Not trying to say that changing the world is an impossible feat, but many people have a tough time figuring out how to go from fantasy to making it a reality.
And that's where the problem occurs.
I thought you were going to reply with the rest of the lyrics. Beach Boys- wouldnt it be nice. This is the worst birthday ever
 

Toby_Morpheus

Hello, Proto
I thought you were going to reply with the rest of the lyrics. Beach Boys- wouldnt it be nice. This is the worst birthday ever
I don't listen to Beach Boys, sorry.
And I stopped doing the song quoting thing back when Myspace died.

Sorry to disappoint.
 
Im a loose cannon cop who doesnt play by the rules.
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Badger94

I am the world's forgotten boy
I don't listen to Beach Boys, sorry.
And I stopped doing the song quoting thing back when Myspace died.

Sorry to disappoint.
Me either, its the only song by them i know. I thought i was being cute, but thinking about now, it was most definitely not righteous of me. Also, remember myspace and all the drama that unfolded there, ahhh myspace :) In conclusion, I am sorry that you felt the need to say sorry to me. Also I dont believe you are indeed sorry. Youre just sorry you got caught.
 

Toby_Morpheus

Hello, Proto
Me either, its the only song by them i know. I thought i was being cute, but thinking about now, it was most definitely not righteous of me. Also, remember myspace and all the drama that unfolded there, ahhh myspace :) In conclusion, I am sorry that you felt the need to say sorry to me. Also I dont believe you are indeed sorry. Youre just sorry you got caught.
Meh.
Something like this isn't worth sweating over.
Even being sorry for not catching a quote from an old song isn't worth the energy.

It was just etiquette, I suppose.
 

Badger94

I am the world's forgotten boy
Meh.
Something like this isn't worth sweating over.
Even being sorry for not catching a quote from an old song isn't worth the energy.

It was just etiquette, I suppose.
I find your reply to civil to respond with a shitty response. I think we can agree that we were both wrong and move forward.
 

Toby_Morpheus

Hello, Proto
I find your reply to civil to respond with a shitty response. I think we can agree that we were both wrong and move forward.
Even though I may have missed it being a quote, I think my response to it was still valid.

So I can't honestly agree with your outcome.

Sorry :p
 

Badger94

I am the world's forgotten boy
Even though I may have missed it being a quote, I think my response to it was still valid.

So I can't honestly agree with your outcome.

Sorry :p

What if I sweeten the pot? I think we can both agree that we were both wrong. And that the beach boys were the ones who in fact are to blame for inciting fur on fur violence. Agreed?
 
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