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Where does all the money go?

jakejynx

Member
The recent news post on the front page has me wondering: $1695 is a lot of money per month. With no staff to pay (as far as I know), I'm curious about where that money goes and what it's used for. Can anyone shed any light?
 

dinosaurdammit

White Devil
The recent news post on the front page has me wondering: $1695 is a lot of money per month. With no staff to pay (as far as I know), I'm curious about where that money goes and what it's used for. Can anyone shed any light?

I imagine usage of the servers, domain, and site clean up are what most of it goes to. Hardware is something I highly doubt it goes to now considering the amount they have.
 

Sanyi

Blood, Sex, and Chocolate
Protip: Hosting a site of this size costs a lot of money.
Also, they are paying somebody to do the new UI. I am assuming that is included in that monthly charge (for now).
 

Bobskunk

Banned
Banned
Extra RAM

Oh, and the 44U of rackspace. Can't forget that. It's only this expensive because they are spending more money than they need to.

in before yak's "You don't know a sixth of what's really going on and you speculate" blah blah gb2work
 

Azure

100% organic vegan hubbas
Protip. Private companies and websites don't have to tell you where anything goes, ever, just where you can stick it. Not to say that I'm not curious, but barking up this tree is probably gonna get a thread lock, or a lengthy thread of "reasonable" admins with multi paragraph explanations of absoultely nothing. Good try though. Real talk, don't donate unless you want too. I wouldn't :V
 

Ben

Banned
Banned
Protip. Private companies and websites don't have to tell you where anything goes, ever, just where you can stick it. Not to say that I'm not curious, but barking up this tree is probably gonna get a thread lock, or a lengthy thread of "reasonable" admins with multi paragraph explanations of absoultely nothing. Good try though. Real talk, don't donate unless you want too. I wouldn't :V

Yeah, I wouldn't either. I mean, they've been making so many unfulfilled promises for years, that I just don't understand why my money should be donated to FA, instead of an actual, real charity (like the Red Cross!). Actually, now that I think about it, I find it strange that FA would start asking for donations when the Red Cross link is still up. I certainly hope no one actually looks at the news post, and then at the Red Cross link, and then goes "NO, THE FURRY PORN SITE NEEDS IT MORE." That would just be a tad upsetting.
 

Volkodav

Dad****er
dragoneer spends it on fancy lacey underwear for me and then i put them on and give all the FA mods a show
 

jakejynx

Member
Can't say I understand the snark. o.0 I'm honestly just curious. Admins are welcome to explain, but that bill up there was a pretty good explanation in and of itself. :)
 

Smelge

Hey, Assbutt
Here's an idea. Instead of asking for donations, actually respond to advertising emails, sell adspace for a fair price, get your bloody hosting idea up and running and earning cash, so you aren't reliant on people giving away cash.

Even better idea, you've got a couple of people around here that run their own printing business. They've advertised in the Black market a few times. Do some deal with them and get on-demand printing available, again giving profits to enable getting someone who knows what they are doing to recode the site or make Ferrox or whatever the hell it is now, work.
 

Deo

The hatred of FAF personified
I agree that they should sell prints, I'd hate to see FA turn into DA, but selling prints and t-shirts could help maintain the site more steadily than "PLZ DONATE!"
 

Smelge

Hey, Assbutt
I agree that they should sell prints, I'd hate to see FA turn into DA, but selling prints and t-shirts could help maintain the site more steadily than "PLZ DONATE!"

It wouldn't be that tough either, surely. There's members with the set-up. Just going to one of the smaller furry printshops andtaking, say, 5% commission from each item sold would work nicely. Site gets income, printers get profit and ability to eventually expand their operations. They don't need to bother with advertising either. It's a mutual arrangement that could in theory benefit both sides.
 

Redregon

Banned
Banned
Extra RAM

Oh, and the 44U of rackspace. Can't forget that. It's only this expensive because they are spending more money than they need to.

in before yak's "You don't know a sixth of what's really going on and you speculate" blah blah gb2work

you seem to "care" much more than one would expect a rational... whoops... damn... now i can't finish that sentence.
 

Bobskunk

Banned
Banned
you seem to "care" much more than one would expect a rational... whoops... damn... now i can't finish that sentence.

you seem like a faggot

whoops
 

Redregon

Banned
Banned
though, to be frank, this is a terrible thread. it's assuming that a free site is even somewhat accountable for how it spends the money it gets from ad revenue and donations.

really, the site still works... yeah, some issues like some chuckleheads deciding that they want to "stick it to the dragoneer" for whatever reason (i suspect bawwing, butthurt pedos that are pissed that they have to migrate to pedo bunny for their fix.) but to be fair, the site has managed to stay afloat for what, six years or so?

so, if they're doing something wrong, it's not like any of us really notice or care. but then again, most of us have lives outside of a furry art website.
 

Smelge

Hey, Assbutt
though, to be frank, this is a terrible thread. it's assuming that a free site is even somewhat accountable for how it spends the money it gets from ad revenue and donations.

really, the site still works... yeah, some issues like some chuckleheads deciding that they want to "stick it to the dragoneer" for whatever reason (i suspect bawwing, butthurt pedos that are pissed that they have to migrate to pedo bunny for their fix.) but to be fair, the site has managed to stay afloat for what, six years or so?

so, if they're doing something wrong, it's not like any of us really notice or care. but then again, most of us have lives outside of a furry art website.

You mean apart from the site going up and down like a paraplegic yo-yo, constant requests for donations, hardware upgrades out the arse, repeated promises of site upgrades, segments of the site being removed due to security, security flaws that allow people to romp around in admin accounts, redundant hardware bought to serve projects that have never been finished, and so on and so on.

But it's hard to notice the calls for donations to cover costs when they're stuck on the front page. It's easy to ignore the people wanting to advertise who have to post threads about how their emails keep going unanswered despite the calls for money. There is no reason at all that with such a large userbase and 6 years, the place shouldn't be self-sufficient and turning enough profit to pay for those software upgrades that result in random white screens, and other site issues.

But, you know, feel free to hang around and piss yourself while screaming about how much you don't care.
 

Redregon

Banned
Banned
You mean apart from the site going up and down like a paraplegic yo-yo, constant requests for donations, hardware upgrades out the arse, repeated promises of site upgrades, segments of the site being removed due to security, security flaws that allow people to romp around in admin accounts, redundant hardware bought to serve projects that have never been finished, and so on and so on.

But it's hard to notice the calls for donations to cover costs when they're stuck on the front page. It's easy to ignore the people wanting to advertise who have to post threads about how their emails keep going unanswered despite the calls for money. There is no reason at all that with such a large userbase and 6 years, the place shouldn't be self-sufficient and turning enough profit to pay for those software upgrades that result in random white screens, and other site issues.

But, you know, feel free to hang around and piss yourself while screaming about how much you don't care.

blah, blah, blah... ITT: furries trying to overemphasize a site's failings to justify their incessant need to feel better by shitposting.

did i say the site was perfect? no... but i just don't see a reason to bring this whole thing to light for the Nth time and beating it like a dead whore.

but hey, we can't all be melodramatic drama-queens about it so carry on.

though, if the site is going up and down like a yo-yo, those must be some mighty long strings since it's been up pretty much solid for a while now.
 
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Accountability

Enthusiastic Downloader
The recent news post on the front page has me wondering: $1695 is a lot of money per month. With no staff to pay (as far as I know), I'm curious about where that money goes and what it's used for. Can anyone shed any light?

That's the cost of their full 44U cabinet (and bandwidth and power) at their datacenter/host InfoRelay. People who have been inside this datacenter and have seen FA's cabinet say they could do with a cabinet 1/3 of the size, but FA insists on spending this much every month on a space they only use 1/3 of. It's like renting a three-bedroom apartment and only using one of them.

Of course, when asked about this in the past, Dragoneer said they had to rent a full cabinet to get 24/7 access to the datacenter. An email to InfoRelay confirmed this is false, as long as you rent any sized private cabinet, you get 24/7 access.
 
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