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Why all the Na'vi hate?

Conker

Conker

Destroyer of Nazi Teddy Bears
Aden said:
The story was so average that it was bad. The visuals were fantastic.

However, if I wanted the best of both worlds I'd watch District 9.
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District 9 should have been movie of the year :( That movie was fucking amazing.
Attaman said:
Avatar promised to turn around cinema, have an amazing plot, change how you view the world, everything. It... had shiny. It changed idiots (the ones who change their views on the world because a guy on the news told them to once) views of the world. That's it. If it was only promising to give us lots of shiny, like a tech-demo, I'd say it satisfied as good. It didn't.
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I stayed away from most of the hype revolving around Avatar, thus, I missed out on what it promised.

Sure, it didn't change anything regarding movies, and yeah, the plot wasn't anything special, BUT GOOD GOD THE PRETTY GRAPHICS!

I'm not the kind of guy that will sit through a three hour movie, but I was able to watch Avatar twice with no problems. The story might not be anything new or exciting, but it's a formula that works, and Avatar packaged it well enough.

And the gimmicks that went with the movie were enough to justify it's creation. For the most part anyways.
 
Nargle

Nargle

HOOT
I think most of the people that hate Avatar do so because it's cool to hate things that everyone else likes. You know, they got bitten by the nonconformist bug. I've met dozens of people who don't WANT to like Avatar but regretfully admit that they loved it. Like they're ashamed to like something that's popular.

Those that don't like the story because "it's been done before" obviously don't understand the concept of literary archetypes. Name any movie, I promise you 90% the time it's been done before.
 
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Syradact

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Avatar greatly benefited by the hype machine at work. I've seen it twice, because a family member hadn't seen it yet, and it was decidedly less entertaining the second time around. From the start I recognized the plot devices as derivative; it's just that the shiny meant a lot less after seeing it once, and my opinion solidified.

I had a friend who texted me about how it changed the way he would view the world forever. I don't talk to him anymore (he was kinda dumb).

And the sex scene was just as uncomfortable as that rave party in the Matrix Reloaded, but thankfully not as long.
 
Kaizy

Kaizy

Emotional Mess
Honestly, I think people have blown it out of proportion, both the people who like it and dont like it

Yeah it was a good movie, but it wasnt the greatest damned thing since sliced bread

Yeah it was alien Pocahontas, but it isnt a damned plague on mankind

It was a movie, and thats all :1
 
Eric

Eric

Member
Well, the movie actually was pretty good, but the ads everywhere are so damn annoying. What also makes the movie (and it's contents) a bit less attractive is that it's so overhyped. But some people like that.

Kaizy said:
Yeah it was a good movie, but it wasnt the greatest damned thing since sliced bread
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Man, you're right. Sliced bread is damn awesome.
 
Kellie Gator

Kellie Gator

Moral Minority
gdzeek said:
I noticed a lot of furs on the forums hate avatar, I dont agree with everything in the movie, but i thought it was good overall.

I especially liked the scene when he was in the Na'vi body and could walk again for the first time and being excited. heck I was jealous of having a tail.

so yeah, you can throw pies at the OP if you want, I'm not too worried about it. just curious though how come so many furs dont like this Movie?
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Nonono, that isn't how you do it! When you have an opinion that's different from the general public you use it for great trolling!

And personally I think that any movie that's been developed since 1994 and gets released which such terrible story and characters in 2009 should be laughed off Hollywood.
 
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Ishnuvalok

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Ehh, Avatar wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. After I finished watching Avatar I felt like I felt after I played Crysis.

"This was just one long-ass tech demo. And it was damned impressive".

All these Na'Vi fanboys/girls is really annoying thought. Especially the ones who believe themselves to be Na'Vi in "human avatars".

Oh well, shake your head, sigh, and move on.
 
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Nargle

Nargle

HOOT
Could someone please explain to me why they think Avatar was "overhyped?" I didn't even know what Avatar was until I went to go see it in theatres. And after that, the only craziness was regarding the Na'Vi otherkin. The only thing close to "people declaring that the movie had changed the world" was my animation teacher explaining that it has set a new standard for 3D animators, and I hardly think anyone is going to argue with that. Other than that, all I've been hearing about Avatar is either "It was a good movie, I liked it." or "ZOMG It sucked so bad it was the exact same thing as Poccahontas!!!!! BURN IT WITH FIRE!!" Are these kneejerk negative reactions what you're referring to when you say it was overhyped?

There wasn't NEARLY as much hype as, I dunno, the new Shrek movie? Seriously, everything is green with ogre ears on it. Everything!!

BTW, making lots of money =/= hype.
 
Attaman

Attaman

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Nargle said:
Could someone please explain to me why they think Avatar was "overhyped?"
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At least here in MD, it was on the TV at least several weeks (if not months) before release. There had been articles released for some time by Cameron and other actors talking about how it would "turn around" cinema as well as "change your view on the world". Commercials that read like FA Art "Critiques" ("OMG 5/5 STAR" "NO 6/5 STAR" "10/10 PERFECT GOOD WORK") instead of saying anything about the plot or what the movie was about (You know, what should be the most important thing to convey in a commercial other than "10/10 5/5 Bang Boom Dakka dakka 10/10").

Nargle said:
There wasn't NEARLY as much hype as, I dunno, the new Shrek movie? Seriously, everything is green with ogre ears on it. Everything!!
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I haven't seen that much Shrek hype, but again that might be a MD thing. Plus, I haven't seen people from the development team / cast ranting & raving about how it would change how people live their lives.

Nargle said:
BTW, making lots of money =/= hype.
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No, making lots of money = hype working. :mrgreen:
 
RayO_ElGatubelo

RayO_ElGatubelo

My gif animation doesn't work
I think the Na'vikin are going to have a lot of trouble trying distinguish themselves from furries.
"Hey, I'm a blue cat person."
"So... you're a furry?"
"Hell, no!"
"Why?"
"Because I'm not into hermaphrodite scat parties, that's why!"

Relax, as a cat person myself, I don't consider the Na'vi cat people. But they are damn close.
 
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Tycho

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RayO_ElGatubelo said:
I think the Na'vikin are going to have a lot of trouble trying distinguish themselves from furries.
"Hey, I'm a blue cat person."
"So... you're a furry?"
"Hell, no!"
"Why?"
"Because I'm not into hermaphrodite scat parties, that's why!"

Relax, as a cat person myself, I don't consider the Na'vi cat people. But they are damn close.
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They're elf-cat-smurfs.
 
RayO_ElGatubelo

RayO_ElGatubelo

My gif animation doesn't work
Tycho said:
They're elf-cat-smurfs.
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I think the perfect description is someone whose cat transfomation has been paused and then they dip him in blue stripes.
 
Silver Dragon

Silver Dragon

Don't worry, I'm a doctor.
RayO_ElGatubelo said:
I think the perfect description is someone whose cat transfomation has been paused and then they dip him in blue stripes.
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Where does the 10-foot tall part fit in?
 
BluDitto

BluDitto

**** YOU I'M A DITTO
I tried to take Avatar seriously, but I was loling hard in the theater during the sex scene. Some girl next to me who looked to be about ten to twelve years old had the most priceless expression on her face.
 
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Tycho

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BluDitto said:
I tried to take Avatar seriously, but I was loling hard in the theater during the sex scene. Some girl next to me who looked to be about ten to twelve years old had the most priceless expression on her face.
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She will go through the rest of her life with a haircut like Susan Powter and a revulsion towards hair salons.
 
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