Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to stop.

[Kaizy]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

I had seen this thread since I popped back on the forums, and and avoided it because I pretty much knew what I'd see.

After finally checking it, it's pretty much what I expected.

I see more pointless insults being thrown at each other and rants about feminism and "evil SJWs" than I do about anything related to the problems in the gaming industry.
You might as well rename this thread "Argue About Feminism" because that's all this is.

 

[Zuriak]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

A)I wasn't talking to you. B) Whenever you post stuff like this, Iimmediately know that this is a fun game for you, or that you won'ttake this discussion with sincerity and an open mind. You immediatelywalk in with this BS attitude that many dissenters of Feminism have,which is the equivalent of childishly plugging your ears and humming.Nearly all of your responses don't even touch upon many valid pointsI made, and your touting of "I'll provide sources if you want meto" lead me to believe you couldn't find nonbiased, reputableones, or too lazy to do so. But by all means, find your sources. Youreally should have done that from the start if you wanted to be takenseriously instead of another chump who wants to play 'lets chop thefeminist' or whatever. Like, you could have entered this with justthe below quote. The addition of the above picture automaticallyleaves a bad taste in my mouth, but I'll still continue withimpressive patience because why the hell not? Its 5:30 am and I havenothing to do 'till the moving truck gets here.

This is an open discussion,if it was directed just to Shio then a private message is in order.Also, you can't just call a point valid because you want to. Some ofthem weren't relevant to what we were discussing, while others weremoot because it's agreed. I'd like you to specify what you mean.

Theuse of red text wasn't to mimic Shiobears responses, but to giveresponses to common reactions to various arguments for feminism. Thiswas a completely one-sided post, and I used Angry-Red-Text as aliterary proponent to both promote interest and add narrative to whatis ultimately a boring post. Angry-Red-Text is meant to be a succinctcharacter that plays along with my speech, though Angry-Red-Text hassaid many things that have rehashed this argument many times.

At best it's an improper segway to connect your points, and at worst it's assuming and putting words into one's mouth.

Mygood sir, you literally managed to completely miss a 3,337 wordpost's entire point. I am impressed. Literally no where does it saythat feminism

rightnowisfor equal rights. Feminism right now is forequalstanding.Wegot that over the course of the last few decades beginning with thesuffragettes. Second wave and third wave feminism was literally allabout cultural perception and attitude. We have rights.. sort of insome states. Abortion is still legal, but texas doesn't have enoughoperating planned parenthoods/abortion providers to really provide toanyone. 20 week bans put women in danger. So the right that men havethat women don't have right now is the right to a safe, reliable,option for an abortion near us without any politicians getting in theway of that. That is a huge concrete thing you guys don't need toworry about because.. you're literally guys. This isn't an issue thatconcerns you. You literally don't care. Roe VS Wade didn't fix a damnthing.

Letme put it to you this way: Blacks and Whites got the right to marryfor a long time, right? But then why is it just right now that it isacceptable? You see, its just recently that it has become sociallyacceptabletomarry interracially. Again, I'm underlining things and speaking inmore succinct points because you can't refute more than a handful ofideas with baseless and sourceless claims.

Feminismby definition is rights and oppurtunities for women. What you'redescribing approaches the territory for egalitarianism. Personally,I'm pro-choice and believe you are responsible for you, and the stateor any other entity cannot tell you what you can or cannot do withyour body. Pro-lifers largely come froma religious background so youknow who your political opponents are. This does concern me, butstating that I don't care because I'm a man does not rest well withme. I'm sure I can make sweeping accusations that you don't careabout men's issue 'X', 'Y' or 'Zed' as well but it only serves tohurt your argument.


Though there are reasons that people respond to hotly to race. I think your enemy is more religion than it is this idea of patriarchy you possess.

Iliterally said "I am sticking predominantly in western society,especially because I am uneducated in eastern feminisism and I trynot to talk about things I don't know about." So of course Ididn't talk about Shariah law. I am uneducated to any deep thoughtabout Shariah law except for what I see in media around me. I was,however, a christian and went to sunday school, so naturally I spokeabout something I knew about.

Ireally want to see sources of women who have actually pushed forridiculous extra rights. You'll notice all of these women got shutdown. Like it or not, folks can tell when someone is blowing hot airor has a legitimate reason to act or say the things they do. Payingattention to feminists who want men to die is like paying attentionto the Ku Klux Klan begging for the separation of races. Again, it isan extremist response and again, the extremist response gets the mostattention. The woman who want extra rights did not get them, andinstead are angry within their circles. They are not seriousproponents within the feminist movement.

In my experience, I can safely say that Asian/African feminists have it worse than American feminists.Oneo f them actually vocal about it. I'm sure there are more examples I can dig up, but I find it morbidly humorous that Feminism wants to attack Christianity but not Islam.


As for the other ones:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...oman-said-Yes-under-tough-new-rape-rules.html
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/12/jessica-valenti-america-should-model.html
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...thout-anger/rqFNSIJp22YWQy6jGPvhPJ/story.html
http://jezebel.com/if-you-want-to-stop-violence-against-women-ban-men-1589233029
http://review.gawker.com/ban-men-from-literary-readings-1700491985


The KKK have negligablepolitical power, and the SJW variety has quite a bit. That's a really unfair comparison.

Idon't care about having equal rights. I have those. I care aboutsocial and political and cultural attitudes towards women, like Isaid in the above mentioned three thousand word post. This hasliterally nothing to do with rights here- its all about how we'retreated. As far as being angry- we have been docile for a very longtime. Much like the black power movement's resurgence as of late,oppressed groups have become angry that peace and calm discussion hasachieved.. nothing! Now something needs to be done and we cannot waitfor another few decades for this kind of idea to die. Many activistsare confronting the idea head on.

"Idon't care about equal rights"


I should stop here, but I'll keep going.


I'm tired of cultural,social and political attitudes towards men as well. Why should I have to go to some foreign land and blast some poor kid in his skull dome because his leaders are in conflict with mine? Why do I have to pay the bill at a restaurant? I find them tiresome as well. You have equal rights (with some cushy bonuses) so you should be happy.

Asfar as the REd PILL goes, if you bothered to look at what the bluepill is posting about, the front page is full of direct threads in the red-pill saying ridiculous things. If the red pill was asinnocuous as you are insinuating, they wouldn't be almost universallylooked down upon as a bunch of pouty MRAs they didn't get sex as areward. But if you REALLY want to see where the TRP condoned orlaughed at rape?

One, Two, Three, four, five, six

I'll admit I haven't been to the Blue Pill, but from what I've seen from the Red Pill, I really haven't seen anything like that to warrant branding them in that light; every movement and group has their crazies.

Falseequivalence. When you say 'it's just design', why is it everywhere?The difference between manly, ripped men and scantily clad women arevery different. The muscle-men who get all the women are called MalePower Fantasies, and of course, bimbo women are Sex Fantasies. Thereare two completely different things. The objectification of men andwomen are drastically different. You don't get mad, sure. But don'taccuse me of 'projection' when I've cited over 10 sources relating tothe different culture of things. Like, why the hell did you botherreplying when you were just going to deny literally everything Isaid? You literally will not give it any thought that there is somuch variation for men and almost none for women?

Implying women don't have power or sex fantasies. The two main characters from'Supernatural' have a gigantic female fan following. The newer doctors from Dr. Who? Hell, look at Fifty Shades of Gray. These appeal to different audiences. I don't get upset when I see a cologne or anti-perspirant advertisement featuring a handsome, clear-skinned and muscular lad. I just accept I'll never be as great looking as him and I move on – I don't really understand the controversy tosexualized women, and honestly I'll doubt the bimbos are mainstream and I'm speaking as someone who has invested an unhealthy amount ofmy life into vidya games. Wow, a character has desirable proportions or revealing clothing. Great. Wait, they're a woman? Sound the alarm!There's misogyny afoot.

 

[Zuriak]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

My document writer butchered my formatting. Thanks Obama.

Ugh,dude, I'm not saying men suddenly need to start being weepy. I'msaying men should have the choice to be weepy if they want to. That'sthe entire point. Everyone approaches stuff differently, but thecultural perception is that men are emotionless stone beings andwomen are weepy crybabies. Feminism is calling for abolishing thatidea and just.. letting folks deal with shit the way they want,without calling a man a faf because he's crying.

I really didn't want to say anything about this, but no. He takes careof his hygiene. Showers and whatnot. Clothes washing. but he deos thebare minimum. Everything else is 'too girly'. That's what I mean. Andbelieve what you will. You already entered this with a shittyattitude, and the reality is that at the end of this you'll stillbelieve you're this self righteous guy who has it all down pat andI'm just some bitch bitching. Literally nothing is wrong withsociety, right?

Thereare weepy men and honestly I find weepy, emotional peopleundesireable to be around. Then again I prefer stability andconsistancy. The perceptions from from sexual dimorphism, really.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2919083/Male-female-brains-really-wired-differently-Study-finds-women-far-affected-emotional-images.html]Seriously.[/quote]If someone wants to be resolute in their stoniness or weepy andemotional, fine. Let the person be the person they want to be.


Also, you brought up the anecdotal story, so don't get upset if I'm discussing it. Though I've never implied you were "just a bitch bitching", though I can associate that to your character if it helps at all.

Imade several points that stated that these separitists are not to belistened to. They are the WBC of feminism. Folks who believe men needto eat shit and die are disgusting misandrists and no one shouldlisten to them, and that includes you. There are feminists, like me,who genuinely care about men. I genuinely want you to pursue what youwant without being called girly. I just want men and women to coexistand be happy without gender dictating our lives andinterests.




Ithas been mostly women that get rape threats. Men do not get rapethreats as often as women do. They get threats that their wives anddaughters and mothers would get raped, though.

Asfar as being called these things, when you genuinely believe you're'arguing with me' when in reality you're just rehashing half bakedideas, ad hohenheim's, and adding veiled insults in every otherparagraph makes it laughable that you think we're having a genuineconversation. My post is open, gentle, and encouraging to thinkdifferently. Yours was calling me a liar at certain points andbelieving I wanted different things. Had you any readingcomprehension, this would simply be untrue. You went in callingyourself a victim, and its a shitty and pathetic attitude.




Imade a paragraph about that. Feminism is for the benefit of women tonot have the horrid things happen to us happen to us like I dictatedin my post. The side effect of women benefiting from feminism is menbenefiting from feminism, because it goes both ways. I made a hugepost that deconstructed the idea that I dont want men and women to beequals because I do. Egalitarianism doesn't see it that way, becauseits just a crappy answer to someone not really fucking thinking aboutwhat they're saying. Why in the hell did you belivee "I don'twant the same"? There are a thousand words that literally said Idid! How can you be so frigging daft?




Andfinaly, I want to see sources for these last few things because theysound like sensationalist news stories that you didn't actually putany thought. Separitist feminists have taken over media and I needyou to pull your head out of your butt and really think about what Isaid. Reread it. This is the feminism that needs to be talked aboutmore, but it isn't because women like Anita and whatever idiot issuing that canadian man is whats getting the news. Read mymetaphorical lips! Those aren't the women you need to be listeningto! The women who want whats best for all of us, like myself, is whoyou need to listen to.

Imean, I guess at the end, whats the fucking point? You'veconsistently shown your attitude to be shit and I'm really stressedout from this move. You've automatically made yourself a victim in asystem that has consistently rewarded you. Hell, you've accused me oflying and that sure as heck isn't a good discussion. I really wantyou guys to believe in feminism, I just have a theory you're scaredoff by crazy women, because that is what they are. We just want abetter world, and egalitarianism is a lazy way of belief to do it.Feminism will change the world once folks get over their fear andreally listen and educate themselves. Feminism will change the worldonce folks accept we've been treated wrong for a very long time, andit hasn't stopped today.

Thisis no longer about rights, its about our safety, our culture, oursocial and economic status and just straight up morale.

Anyways.It was all for Shiobear to read and consider.

I'll attack the rest because this is somewhat tiresome.

1. Outliers are in every group and bring negative attention, but your idea of Feminism's third wave is what is gaining Feminism negative attention. Getting angry and active nets you attention, positive and negative, and this is hijacked to extents that I personally find distasteful.
2. Yes, we're having a discussion. Your condescending narrative and insults to myself and my intelligence don't speak very well to your supposedly open and gentle. At no point so I make myself the victim; you yourself claim women are oppressed. YOU are saying this.
3. For the third time, Feminism at this point in time has women's interests in mind. People like myself favor egalitarianism because I like the idea of fair and equal justice no matter who you are, be it color, gender or socio-economic situation.
   
   Additionally, I implied threats in general, not rape threats -- I apologize if that's unclear.

For the Canadian story:https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3dfsec/man_faces_6_months_in_jail_for_disagreeing_with/
For the class one:
http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/07/03/cayen-cash-robotics-class


Insult me all you like,call my attitude shitty and what not, no skin off my back. I've been called worse by better people.

 

[Kellie Gator]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Are you saying he hit the women by accident?



[just pointing out a logical flaw]

I meant he hit the men by accident.

I did, however, forget about the male roommates he killed, I'm sorry about that. But anyone who's read anything about Rodger and his manifesto, and saw his retrubution would clearly see that his intended target were women, primarily. But Rodger was a random sheltered loser, not an expert marksman who would score multiple headshots at the right targets, THAT'S my point. He missed or only wounded several women.

Elliot Rodger's motives were clear, but his execution was poor.

And yet one group should be condemned for its extremists while another group should be seen as generally good despite its extremists? If one can't look past the extremists of a group to judge it by its supposed agenda then why would one expect people to look past the extremists in one's own group and instead judge it based on the good it intends to do?

If you read the rest of my post...

My point remains the same, though, all I ever want is for gamergaters to do something about their bad eggs.

But they never do. Gee, it's almost as if GG wants people to be harassed or are, at the very least, apathetic to it happening.

Same with MRAs, but in MRAs that might be because the majority of MRA are extremists. Or maybe the civil rights group Southern Poverty Law Center are part of the global jewish zionist feminist agenda.

MRAs, too, fail to acknowledge and condemn the extremists, the terrorists who kill women for being women, like Elliot Rodger (not an MRA but MRAs sure as fuck dismissed his misogyny rather than condemning it) and many others.

You'd know what I was talking about.

 

[Derin Darkpaw]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

If you read the rest of my post...
You'd know what I was talking about.

One that is very disingenuous of you to assume that I did not read your entire post. Two while I don't believe they are part of some sort of agenda I do feel like the articles posted was an example of confirmation bias. They seem to have cherry picked the results that matched the narrative they believe and offhandedly dismissed any criticism brought against that same narrative.

Volk here is more then capable of doing the same for feminism. Providing article after article detailing terrible things done and believed by people claiming to be a part of that movement, BUT that doesn't mean I agree with him. I recognize what he posts in this regard for the bias that it carries.

So my original questions still stand.

Why should one group be condemned for its extremists while another group should be seen as generally good despite its extremists? If one can't look past the extremists of a group to judge it by its supposed agenda then why would one expect people to look past the extremists in one's own group and instead judge it based on the good it intends to do?

 

[Inpw]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

2 on Feminism

[video=youtube;PnctLuNSZ2M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnctLuNSZ2M[/video]

 

[Zuriak]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

2 on Feminism

[video=youtube;PnctLuNSZ2M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnctLuNSZ2M[/video]

http://i.imgur.com/QOT0O1m.png

Here we go again.

 

[Ozriel]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

2 on Feminism

[video=youtube;PnctLuNSZ2M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnctLuNSZ2M[/video]

Not that I am a big fan of 2, he does have a point. In any radical sociopolitical movement, you will get your loudmouth myopic ignoramuses (like radical republicans for instance). Because we like to pay attention to the negative (which often deflects on the serious issues), people spend too much time arguing and giving the negative side its limelight. Modern Feminism is no different, and it is certainly in need of a revamp in certain areas.

 

[Kellie Gator]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

One that is very disingenuous of you to assume that I did not read your entire post. Two while I don't believe they are part of some sort of agenda I do feel like the articles posted was an example of confirmation bias. They seem to have cherry picked the results that matched the narrative they believe and offhandedly dismissed any criticism brought against that same narrative.

Volk here is more then capable of doing the same for feminism. Providing article after article detailing terrible things done and believed by people claiming to be a part of that movement, BUT that doesn't mean I agree with him. I recognize what he posts in this regard for the bias that it carries.

So my original questions still stand.

Why should one group be condemned for its extremists while another group should be seen as generally good despite its extremists? If one can't look past the extremists of a group to judge it by its supposed agenda then why would one expect people to look past the extremists in one's own group and instead judge it based on the good it intends to do?

The SPLC are pretty damn credible, or do they cherry pick their info on groups like the KKK and Aryan Nations, too?

Also, look up the world "majority" in the dictionary please. There might be "reasonable" MRAs and GGers but honestly now, I think of them the same way I think of neo-nazis and the "pro-family" movement. They're hate movements and someone needs to recognize them as such.

I could say feminism in general is not a hate movement even if there are a minority of hateful feminists but why bother, right? People are so brainwashed in here they'll never believe that.

 

[Valyriana]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Leaving my 2 cents here.

''Feminism'' as a name already applies to non equality.

Thank you. No further discussion needed.

 

[Zuriak]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

The SPLC are pretty damn credible, or do they cherry pick their info on groups like the KKK and Aryan Nations, too?

Also, look up the world "majority" in the dictionary please. There might be "reasonable" MRAs and GGers but honestly now, I think of them the same way I think of neo-nazis and the "pro-family" movement. They're hate movements and someone needs to recognize them as such.

I could say feminism in general is not a hate movement even if there are a minority of hateful feminists but why bother, right? People are so brainwashed in here they'll never believe that.

http://i.imgur.com/4JdqLiW.jpg

You still need to prove MRAs and GGers are hate movement and maintain an equivalence to neo-Nazis. Just stating it repeatedly and patting yourself on the back until the sun goes down doesn't accomplish anything.

Feminism is tied deeply into the SJW movement now, and the SJW movement has a lot of hate against others and its members.

 

[Hakar Kerarmor]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Hey guys! Everyone who makes my side look bad is an extremist outlier, and everyone who makes your side look bad is a typical representation.
Am I doing this right?

 

[Derin Darkpaw]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

The SPLC are pretty damn credible, or do they cherry pick their info on groups like the KKK and Aryan Nations, too?

Also, look up the world "majority" in the dictionary please. There might be "reasonable" MRAs and GGers but honestly now, I think of them the same way I think of neo-nazis and the "pro-family" movement. They're hate movements and someone needs to recognize them as such.

I could say feminism in general is not a hate movement even if there are a minority of hateful feminists but why bother, right? People are so brainwashed in here they'll never believe that.

You may want to read the second article you posted again you might have missed this

"It should be mentioned that the SPLC did not label MRAs as members of a hate movement"

And what I was referring to was not a lack of credibility, but the cognitive bias that can affect all people especially when they are attempting to support a specific narrative. Like how in the second article they treat works of radical feminism as if they are satire, but they seem to take similar statements made by radical MRAs incredibly seriously.

Also you seem to have me confused with other people. I do not in any way believe that feminism is a hate movement.

 

[dischimera]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Leaving my 2 cents here.

''Feminism'' as a name already applies to non equality.

Thank you. No further discussion needed.

It is a misleading term. It took me a WHILE to understand what it really was about just because of the name alone. And all the fake feminists that pretty much degenerate the movement.

 

[Mayfurr]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Why feminism is still necessary and relevant?
Look at the type of people telling you it isn't.

 

[ShioBear]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

It is a misleading term. It took me a WHILE to understand what it really was about just because of the name alone. And all the fake feminists that pretty much degenerate the movement.

not fake. they kind of devolved into something different now the minority is the old 2nd wave and 1st which aren't really about equality either but definitely not a hate movement just no longer need to protest. the new wave definitely are whole heatedly a hate movement. they go to men's rights seminars and call every man in the vicinity a rap apologist and a misogynist. they scream at people just trying to go see someone talk, and call them scum. as well as attacking people and picking fights. new wave fems hate the old wave because they tend to call them out as being a hate movement and wanting special treatment, as well as demonizing a whole sex, citing men have it in their blood to rape. now im not an mra, nore a feminist. im an egalitarian. but even feminists attack the movement saying its an institution of the mra. its a whole lot of men cant do this and that, but we should be able to because were women. now im gender-fluid, but because i have a penis between my legs im automatically assumed to be a rapist, a misogynist, and privileged, when in fact women get scholarships just for having a vagina, its easier for a women to get a job because of women only hiring staffs everywhere. its a dead movement that wasn't needed anymore so the special snowflakes with an unhealthy hate for men and a large dose a 1st world problem fever, decided to just start attacking men in any way possible be it crazy nonsense like man spreading ( although women with tuns of purses are allowed to take 3 seats), dont be that guy, dehumanizing rape culture propaganda ads( because all men are rapists at heart and women neeeever rape:V). and now its video games, anything that isn't to their liking is awful and should be changed to fit their closed minded narrative. its not even a matter of saying no now, if you disagree they spread lies like the plague till you do comply or your name is spat on and shamed just for having a bit of artistic freedom. really feminism is a hate movement, its cultural Marxism. and something needs to be done.

 

[Kellie Gator]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

http://i.imgur.com/4JdqLiW.jpg

You still need to prove MRAs and GGers are hate movement and maintain an equivalence to neo-Nazis. Just stating it repeatedly and patting yourself on the back until the sun goes down doesn't accomplish anything.

Feminism is tied deeply into the SJW movement now, and the SJW movement has a lot of hate against others and its members.

I have multiple times already.

 

[Zuriak]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Why feminism is still necessary and relevant?
Look at the type of people telling you it isn't.

Are you saying that because we're men? (You sexist, you!) You'll find plenty of women who will say the same thing. American/Western feminism is no longer needed and efforts should be made to rectify situations in countries where women are executed if they're raped or have their genitals mutilated.

I have multiple times already.

http://i.imgur.com/eg6mMwX.jpg

"Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antisemitism, and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of Adolf Hitler." -Excerpt from a Wikipedia page regarding Neo-Nazism.

Sorry, I don't see the overlap between proponents of GamerGate or even the MRM when compared to that of Neo-Nazism. If you could run your evidence by us one more time, that'd be just utterly fantastic.

 

[Hakar Kerarmor]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Why feminism is still necessary and relevant?
Look at the type of people telling you it isn't.

Oh please, do tell me what kind of person I am.

 

[ShioBear]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Why feminism is still necessary and relevant?
Look at the type of people telling you it isn't.

do tell me as well http://memecrunch.com/image/4f2f33a71861336239000e86.jpg?w=308

 

[Butters Shikkon]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Ley, you brought the house down like a fucking champ but let these boys have their "he-man woman haters" club. They have so little anyway. :v

 

[Fallowfox]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Well this is a fucking mess.

 

[ShioBear]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Ley, you brought the house down like a fucking champ but let these boys have their "he-man woman haters" club. They have so little anyway. :v

nahh zuriak wrecked ley sorry. lolol

 

[Naesaki]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

This is just an endless war now were "thousands die on each side", I want to try and take the discussion seriously, but I just can't, I just look and giggle at how insane this is all getting, its beyond comprehension.

I'm neither in league with feminism, MRA's, GamerGate or what have you, its just all beyond me to try and get involved and honestly with how high-strung both sides get, it doesn't make it very enticing to get involved in the first place.

I'm happy to enjoy the games and media that I love, I really don't care that much any more about the whole feminist versus MRA debate, I still don't like Anita Sarkeesian but at this point I've longed stopped caring, If she becomes a truly prominent figure, I'll just clap my hands and say good for you Anita, you've gotten to a decent position not many in life will get, enjoy the non-stop harassment from all sides, long since realised that she isn't going to have this drastic world shaking effect on the stuff I actually enjoy, she doesn't have nor will she ever have that prominence.

As for the Feminisn versus MRA versus GamerGate, you guys continue to enjoy this endless war on a Furry Forum

 

[Butters Shikkon]

Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

nahh zuriak wrecked ley sorry. lolol

No, you!!!!!!!

*throws childish tantrum*

(I'd have searched for a gif but I'm on a tablet today. Srry)