Naesaki
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Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
It had a reason once, I think
It had a reason once, I think
Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to stop.
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Kaizy
Emotional Mess
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
From what I've read (which is about 60% of the thread now), the OP was going off on a rant and invited people to "comment or not" on it. People obviously took the opportunity to debate, but it's been a roller coaster of 65 pages, with varying opinions, some snap judgements, and neither side budging very much on the topic.
I'm not really surprised since this is how debates usually go. Although I do wonder, if this was originally a rant, why it wasn't dumped in the R&R section.
From what I've read (which is about 60% of the thread now), the OP was going off on a rant and invited people to "comment or not" on it. People obviously took the opportunity to debate, but it's been a roller coaster of 65 pages, with varying opinions, some snap judgements, and neither side budging very much on the topic.
I'm not really surprised since this is how debates usually go. Although I do wonder, if this was originally a rant, why it wasn't dumped in the R&R section.
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
because im a noob and didnt know any better -.-
Zuriak
Designated Bearforce
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
Thanks Obama.
1000bluntz
mark ass trick
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
*le sigh*
I'm sorry but you've shown me very little evidence of harassment. None of the links you posted are very convincing since they're just thrown together memes clearly made by biased gamergate twitters. And stop trying to pretend like this is a movement actually fighting for a noble cause, most of the people involved aren't very civil.
Okay dude, so I've asked you like 3 times now: what is GGs main objective ? What justice is this movement seeking ?
LOL, look who's on his high horse.
*le sigh*
I'm sorry but you've shown me very little evidence of harassment. None of the links you posted are very convincing since they're just thrown together memes clearly made by biased gamergate twitters. And stop trying to pretend like this is a movement actually fighting for a noble cause, most of the people involved aren't very civil.
Okay dude, so I've asked you like 3 times now: what is GGs main objective ? What justice is this movement seeking ?
LOL, look who's on his high horse.
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Hakar Kerarmor
PRAISE THE EMPEROR
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
Hitler? I hardly know her!
Well, it seems like the thread was long enough to attract Godwin Law
Hitler? I hardly know her!
Naesaki
JRPG Fanatic
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
Hardly on a high horse here, I just can't stand petty insults and bickering >.>
Hardly on a high horse here, I just can't stand petty insults and bickering >.>
1000bluntz
mark ass trick
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
You should give it a try, it's rather fun. This thread wasn't going anywhere anyway, the OP and his buttbuddy gamergate knights deserve to be ridiculed. If this thread won't be deleted then let it serve as an example
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Zuriak
Designated Bearforce
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
But seriously, I've argued this too many times. GG is not about harassment and in fact is against it. Sargon himself recommends you contact the FBI if you find out who did it. I also do not support harassment, despite your claims.
There's actually a nice place for people to go and report harassment they've received for being a part of GamerGate, and thus far the people launching the vast majority of the attacks have been the SJW side. 'Bu-but the womenz recieved da abuse! Muh-soggy-knee and vagina hatin'!" Yeah, no. This is the narrative that was forced upon the group by the mainstream media and professional victims like Anita Sarkeesian, because I actively encourage you to find where the head honchos of GG WANT you to go and attack people, or have done it themselves.
Beyond that, that's been said has been said. One day you'll wake up and realize, "Man I'm such an assclown." but unfortunately today was not that day. Disengagement is the best option at this point, so have fun dancing around and making disparaging comments regarding people's orientation.
Are you saying we deserved it? My my, what a strange and ironic turn of events considering your arguments! Though what's wrong with being gay or casual sex? I see you and Kellie tossing around these funny terms regarding one's sexuality but it only makes you come across as a bigot.
But seriously, I've argued this too many times. GG is not about harassment and in fact is against it. Sargon himself recommends you contact the FBI if you find out who did it. I also do not support harassment, despite your claims.
There's actually a nice place for people to go and report harassment they've received for being a part of GamerGate, and thus far the people launching the vast majority of the attacks have been the SJW side. 'Bu-but the womenz recieved da abuse! Muh-soggy-knee and vagina hatin'!" Yeah, no. This is the narrative that was forced upon the group by the mainstream media and professional victims like Anita Sarkeesian, because I actively encourage you to find where the head honchos of GG WANT you to go and attack people, or have done it themselves.
Beyond that, that's been said has been said. One day you'll wake up and realize, "Man I'm such an assclown." but unfortunately today was not that day. Disengagement is the best option at this point, so have fun dancing around and making disparaging comments regarding people's orientation.
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Silo
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
If your organization is not built around harassment, NEVER make it seem that way. NEVER give the media the wrong idea.
As far as I'm concerned, if your enemy views it as harassment and not an organized group built to combat them, then you've given them all the ammunition they need.
It's like with the kids in Baltimore "rioting" : the aftermath of their actions made them come off as savages.
If your organization is not built around harassment, NEVER make it seem that way. NEVER give the media the wrong idea.
As far as I'm concerned, if your enemy views it as harassment and not an organized group built to combat them, then you've given them all the ammunition they need.
It's like with the kids in Baltimore "rioting" : the aftermath of their actions made them come off as savages.
Zuriak
Designated Bearforce
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDyCMGEN_As
That video is a wild ride.
Honestly with a majority-faceless movement, it's easy to have someone anonymously do something under that movement, while it's hard to tell who did it. Certainly there have been people within GG who are dumbasses and sent threats, but this is not the majority opinion, and in fact a portion of these threats were revealed to be made by sock accounts or entirely just false flags. It really doesn't help when the MSM picks up the story and gives it their own spin, like they always do -- a great example is Ellen Pao, former CEO of Reddit. Some of the coverage she got that played her off as a women's advocate is just appallingly stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDyCMGEN_As
That video is a wild ride.
Kellie Gator
Moral Minority
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
Do you have any independent thought whatsoever or are you unable to say anything on your own and instead have to rely on assistance from reaction images and a YouTube basement dweller because you're a mindless drone?
I'm not surprised that the guy interviewing a Swede using the Swedish word for "nigger" would have a problem with the reddit CEO that knew the site had a big problem with racism.
Do you have any independent thought whatsoever or are you unable to say anything on your own and instead have to rely on assistance from reaction images and a YouTube basement dweller because you're a mindless drone?
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Rassah
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I just want to know, does all of this mean that there won't be any more sexy, scantily clad girls in games? And, more importantly, since I don't really care about those, does that mean there won't be a chance of having games with sexy, scantily clad boys? I was hoping the trend would be sexy girls -> sexy boys. Is the trend sexy girls -> girls wearing bulky well covered things?
I just want to know, does all of this mean that there won't be any more sexy, scantily clad girls in games? And, more importantly, since I don't really care about those, does that mean there won't be a chance of having games with sexy, scantily clad boys? I was hoping the trend would be sexy girls -> sexy boys. Is the trend sexy girls -> girls wearing bulky well covered things?
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
Your coffee table wasn't enough? :v
Your coffee table wasn't enough? :v
Kaizy
Emotional Mess
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
Most of my experience with outfit complaints comes from MMO's, mostly Guild Wars 2.
You'd be surprised how many people would like the option of having male characters with ridiculously skimpy armor/outfits in games. Sadly, a lot of guys fight against that for obvious reasons, and the option doesn't exist. People also argue about giving females more practical outfits/armor all the time, but that never happens either, unless you're playing a game like Dark Souls where it's default. I myself dislike having a lack of option and variety when it comes to characters. It's not prevalent in all games, though there's an overwhelming majority of them that don't have good variety in their character customization, and tend to fall back on such common tropes with their character designs/outfits, such as the skimpy female armor and the ridiculously huge male armor. The lack of option is the big complaint because the defaults of both genders are tired tropes. Guild Wars 2 is somewhat alright with their female armor varieties, at least as far as their warrior classes and such, but the lighter the armor class, the more and more revealing the outfits tend to get.
IIRC, I remember reading an article about a Final Fantasy game (might have been that MMO, correct me if I'm wrong) that had announced that the male characters would be given the option of obtaining armor that was just as ridiculous and skimpy as the female's, but was dropped rather quickly when a lot of guys were complaining about how "gay" it looked and just overall made an uproar about it. Do note that it was simply the option of having it, not a required default outfit, and the outrage was amazing.
I think Willow covered this topic well and more in-depth earlier in the thread.
Most of my experience with outfit complaints comes from MMO's, mostly Guild Wars 2.
You'd be surprised how many people would like the option of having male characters with ridiculously skimpy armor/outfits in games. Sadly, a lot of guys fight against that for obvious reasons, and the option doesn't exist. People also argue about giving females more practical outfits/armor all the time, but that never happens either, unless you're playing a game like Dark Souls where it's default. I myself dislike having a lack of option and variety when it comes to characters. It's not prevalent in all games, though there's an overwhelming majority of them that don't have good variety in their character customization, and tend to fall back on such common tropes with their character designs/outfits, such as the skimpy female armor and the ridiculously huge male armor. The lack of option is the big complaint because the defaults of both genders are tired tropes. Guild Wars 2 is somewhat alright with their female armor varieties, at least as far as their warrior classes and such, but the lighter the armor class, the more and more revealing the outfits tend to get.
IIRC, I remember reading an article about a Final Fantasy game (might have been that MMO, correct me if I'm wrong) that had announced that the male characters would be given the option of obtaining armor that was just as ridiculous and skimpy as the female's, but was dropped rather quickly when a lot of guys were complaining about how "gay" it looked and just overall made an uproar about it. Do note that it was simply the option of having it, not a required default outfit, and the outrage was amazing.
I think Willow covered this topic well and more in-depth earlier in the thread.
1000bluntz
mark ass trick
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Of course he's going to say shit like this to cover his own ass, even the KKK comes out and says "we don't hate anybody, we're not racist". The entire movement is still based off of a biased blog post that aims to defame and slander people.
LOL @ this gamergate tumblr, what the hell ? So I could be a 15 year old gamer dude who got into an argument w/ a FeMiNaZi and cry about it on this tumblr, big whoop ? None of this helps your argument, especially since you've been dancing around my question.
I mean, I know I've been slinging shit at you guys too but at least I'm still trying to carry out an argument. Why haven't I got an actual rebuttal ? What point have you proven by linking me to a bunch of biased gamergate twitter/tumblr accounts ? Other than that you've just thrown trollfaces (seriously, how old are you to still be on that archaic shit) and "hurr durr assclown SJW"
Of course he's going to say shit like this to cover his own ass, even the KKK comes out and says "we don't hate anybody, we're not racist". The entire movement is still based off of a biased blog post that aims to defame and slander people.
LOL @ this gamergate tumblr, what the hell ? So I could be a 15 year old gamer dude who got into an argument w/ a FeMiNaZi and cry about it on this tumblr, big whoop ? None of this helps your argument, especially since you've been dancing around my question.
I mean, I know I've been slinging shit at you guys too but at least I'm still trying to carry out an argument. Why haven't I got an actual rebuttal ? What point have you proven by linking me to a bunch of biased gamergate twitter/tumblr accounts ? Other than that you've just thrown trollfaces (seriously, how old are you to still be on that archaic shit) and "hurr durr assclown SJW"
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
Those aren't simple arguments. Its people being downright rude and quite frankly both sides are guilty of what you described.
Nevermind, that tumblr is one-sided and meant solely to show harassment of GGers rather than both sides.
My main interest in this thread at this point is to report any events of censorship in video games.
Nevermind, that tumblr is one-sided and meant solely to show harassment of GGers rather than both sides.
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Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
What you said.
What some of the sides hear.
What you said.
What some of the sides hear.
sidewalksurfboard
Depressive Rat
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
Ok, the shit people like Kellie Gator and 1000bluntz have been saying legitimately is disgusting. You're acting like what the other side says isn't a liable opinion and just laugh when they bring up the abuse that SJWs have done to other people. I know what it's like. I was harassed by one that I used to think of as a friend, one who turned on me one day and ruined my life. They ruined my life and ruin other people's lives and all you're doing is blindly defending that side. You don't even understand what it's like to have everyone blindly defend the people in the wrong and shun the people in the right. It hurts. And by being so one sided you're hurting more people who will never get a chance to speak.
Ok, the shit people like Kellie Gator and 1000bluntz have been saying legitimately is disgusting. You're acting like what the other side says isn't a liable opinion and just laugh when they bring up the abuse that SJWs have done to other people. I know what it's like. I was harassed by one that I used to think of as a friend, one who turned on me one day and ruined my life. They ruined my life and ruin other people's lives and all you're doing is blindly defending that side. You don't even understand what it's like to have everyone blindly defend the people in the wrong and shun the people in the right. It hurts. And by being so one sided you're hurting more people who will never get a chance to speak.
1000bluntz
mark ass trick
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HAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU FOR REAL ? Awwwh, I'm so sorry. Did you get into an argument with the big bad social justice warriors ? Did they make fun of you ? I'm so sorry, I've had no idea you've been through such traumatic encounters
Why is it difficult for you to understand that your opinions are not exempt from criticism. How the fuck are you going to criticize feminism when you've made it clear you've never even taken a step into the academics ? You guys are citing youtubers, twitter handles and tumblr accounts that have gamergate slogans plastered all over them.
HAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU FOR REAL ? Awwwh, I'm so sorry. Did you get into an argument with the big bad social justice warriors ? Did they make fun of you ?
I'm so sorry, I've had no idea you've been through such traumatic encounters
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TheMetalVelocity
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Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
SJWs are the scum of the earth; coexist my fucking ass.
SJWs are the scum of the earth; coexist my fucking ass.
1000bluntz
mark ass trick
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
easy there cowboy
sidewalksurfboard
Depressive Rat
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s
FUCK YOU. You're turning something that was traumatic for me into a joke. You're a fucking piece of garbage.HAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU FOR REAL ? Awwwh, I'm so sorry. Did you get into an argument with the big bad social justice warriors ? Did they make fun of you ?
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