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Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to stop.

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ShioBear

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Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Please capitalize your responses. I'm typing on a phone and I use proper grammar. There's no excuse for you not to do so, too. Also power over men? You make me laugh. Next you'll tell me there's a gay agenda trying to get after christians, and modern civil rights is designed to beat down white people. And why are you looking for evidence of your points in places that promote creepy sexism? Wouldn't it be less biased to look for a third party source?
see now i know your full of shit you picking apart my grammar? you feminists automatically label any evidence as sexism. it doesn't matter where it comes from because if your just going to try and discredit the source on false sexism claims. piss off. people like you can put their fingers in their ears and sing songs till the point has been made and pretend it never existed. your not worth anyone's time, you and your friends can stroke each others egos till the cows come home see if i care what some blind ass on the internet thinks.
 

DevilishlyHandsome49

The Most Handsome Devil
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see now i know your full of shit you picking apart my grammar? you feminists automatically label any evidence as sexism. it doesn't matter where it comes from because if your just going to try and discredit the source on false sexism claims. piss off. people like you can put their fingers in their ears and sing songs till the point has been made and pretend it never existed. your not worth anyone's time, you and your friends can stroke each others egos till the cows come home see if i care what some blind ass on the internet thinks.

I think its time someone cooled down a bit
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Calemeyr

Vere Adeptus
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see now i know your full of shit you picking apart my grammar? you feminists automatically label any evidence as sexism. it doesn't matter where it comes from because if your just going to try and discredit the source on false sexism claims. piss off. people like you can put their fingers in their ears and sing songs till the point has been made and pretend it never existed. your not worth anyone's time, you and your friends can stroke each others egos till the cows come home see if i care what some blind ass on the internet thinks.
Did I say I was a feminist anywhere, either? Is this a "you're either with me or against me" thing? Also, what do you mean by "blind ass"? Aren't all asses blind? I don't think I have eyes on my butt, and even if I did, they'd be covered by pants.

You seem quite enraged. Perhaps you should take some time off the internet to cool off.
 
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Sylox

boi...chill out!
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

I love watching MRAs, feminists and others argue on here.

Dance monkeys, dance for your king!!!! *noms on popcorn*
 

Lomberdia

Selling bookmarks!
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On that subject can someone answer a curiosity I've long held; if it were acceptable to pay women substantially less for the same work, would not a company with a female-only hiring policy make huge savings?
Because its sexist. How dare companies make savings by paying women less. How dare they try to make a female only hiring policy to make even more savings. Outrage! :V

That actually sounds like a very good business move...IF the whole pay gap thing was still an actual issue. It's really not now-a-days. People who say it is just want stuff to whine about since the playing field is more or less equal now. If I had to hire someone, I would hire whoever would get me the most work per dollar with the least amount of additional stress. Also depended on the type of work I needed.

Thinking about the business around me I notice a few things which I think are universal really;
-If it's desk work and they will actively deal with the public? Hire a pretty female.
-Not heavily physical and still will be dealing with the public on a limited basis? Hire a worker female or male. looks don't matter too much.
-Physical at all? Hire a male.

Best jobs are supervisors. I don't see them ever doing any heavy labor unless it was on a clipboard and consisted of checking boxes. Man, I wanna be a supervisor and get paid big money!
 

Calemeyr

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Ok, I actually took the time to research some of this stuff and yes, the pay gap may be dissappearing. More women are going into STEM fields and other traditionally male-dominated occupations. Hell, we may even have a female president. The big issues are when congress wants to get inside the bedroom and tell what a woman's reproductive rights are. Also treatment by the media. But attitudes are changing, though the ones expressed in this thread are what is holding us back.

So yes, a lot has been done today. But in other countries, like Japan for instance, women are still treated poorly. And in places like Saudi Arabia...well, that whole country is a shithole so it's to be expected.

As for gaming, a lot of the sexism complaints can really be traced to Japanese games. Feminism never really took off there (not today's "feminism" but yesterday's feminism), and Japanese games are typically targeted toward the creepy nerd crowd. I mean, this is the same country that makes H-games with children. So despite Anita's whining, the most egregions examples of video game sexism (not just the nanoaggression oops not-even a-thing things) won't change.

Now the gamers...yeah, gamers and geeks need to police their crowds. "Fake geek girls", "Friendzone", and "nice guys" are all BS. These creeps are the people who hit on cosplayers and then complain about not having a GF. Many (but nobciously not all) nerds are creepy toward women--perhaps because they feel shunned by society, so they must treat others like shit to make themselves feel better? I don't know. But it needs to stop.
 
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Kellie Gator

Moral Minority
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How do you solve the gamer gate problem? With video games.

What other criteria are there aside from "plays video games"? "Gamer" is really just an adjective as far as the english language is concerned.

lol that's a load of shit. she went on multiple sites under different made up user names and sent the threat to herself, she even got caught red handed sending herself rape threats because she forgot to logg out of the account.
and those who sent threats for real were trolls, of coarse since shes a feminist its legitimate threats and not trolling.
of coarse nobody looks at the real gamer gaters and only the black sheep. cherry picking feminists

anita the liar does the same shit
http://www.returnofkings.com/42602/did-anita-sarkeesian-fake-death-threats-against-herself

more proof she did the same thing.
Holocaust? MORE LIKE HOLOHOAX LOL

LOVE YOUR FOLKS, STOP WHITE GENOCIDE
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Re: Why Feminism is poisoning the gaming industry and why anita sarkeesian needs to s

Ok, I actually took the time to research some of this stuff and yes, the pay gap may be dissappearing. More women are going into STEM fields and other traditionally male-dominated occupations. Hell, we may even have a female president. The big issues are when congress wants to get inside the bedroom and tell what a woman's reproductive rights are. Also treatment by the media. But attitudes are changing, though the ones expressed in this thread are what is holding us back.

So yes, a lot has been done today. But in other countries, like Japan for instance, women are still treated poorly. And in places like Saudi Arabia...well, that whole country is a shithole so it's to be expected.

As for gaming, a lot of the sexism complaints can really be traced to Japanese games. Feminism never really took off there (not today's "feminism" but yesterday's feminism), and Japanese games are typically targeted toward the creepy nerd crowd. I mean, this is the same country that makes H-games with children. So despite Anita's whining, the most egregions examples of video game sexism (not just the nanoaggression oops not-even a-thing things) won't change.

Now the gamers...yeah, gamers and geeks need to police their crowds. "Fake geek girls", "Friendzone", and "nice guys" are all BS. These creeps are the people who hit on cosplayers and then complain about not having a GF. Many (but nobciously not all) nerds are creepy toward women--perhaps because they feel shunned by society for being complete losers in life, so they must treat others like shit to make themselves feel better? I don't know. But it needs to stop.

Do you think that you're going to sway anybody's position by telling them that they only disagree with you because their life is worthless?
 

Calemeyr

Vere Adeptus
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Do you think that you're going to sway anybody's position by telling them that they only disagree with you because their life is worthless?
Yeah that was bad. I'm sorry. What I was getting at is some people who feel picked on like to pick on others to make themselves feel better. I got carried away with the vitriol. I shouldn't be insulting people anyway, I'm complaining about harassment after all.
 

ShioBear

EH b0sss
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What other criteria are there aside from "plays video games"? "Gamer" is really just an adjective as far as the english language is concerned. Holocaust? MORE LIKE HOLOHOAX LOL LOVE YOUR FOLKS, STOP WHITE GENOCIDE
okay for your information she has stated many times that she hates games, before jumping on the bandwagon as a reason to fight her invisible misogyny. and really? cmon kellie you cant discount valid points by rambling nonsense. saying something cray cray doesn't automatically discount my point :/
 

Inpw

Roller Coaster Imagineer.
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I don't get modern world feminists nor the opposing team. It's all a bunch of slacktivists bitching online about crap anyways and to make matters worse, they actually make money with this rubbish. If you want to really be part of something and put something at risk, do it in a place where misogyny actually happens, like some religions and the countries still upholding laws written in their fanfics.
 
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Kellie Gator

Moral Minority
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okay for your information she has stated many times that she hates games, before jumping on the bandwagon as a reason to fight her invisible misogyny. and really? cmon kellie you cant discount valid points by rambling nonsense. saying something cray cray doesn't automatically discount my point :/
She said one time she wasn't a fan, that doesn't mean it's a constant, she might've changed her position and like video games more than before, and that doesn't make her criticism invalid.

She's entitled to some goddamn freedom of speech and opinion and I couldn't give less of a fuck that she blasted my most hyped video game of this year's E3 because I'm an adult and perfectly fine with someone thinking differently than me.
 

Naesaki

JRPG Fanatic
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She said one time she wasn't a fan, that doesn't mean it's a constant, she might've changed her position and like video games more than before, and that doesn't make her criticism invalid.

She's entitled to some goddamn freedom of speech and opinion and I couldn't give less of a fuck that she blasted my most hyped video game of this year's E3 because I'm an adult and perfectly fine with someone thinking differently than me.

End of the day I still don't like her, I still think the money she's gotten from kickstarter and such was way OTT and I haven't really see her do much with it either, but she's entitled to her opinions, I just don't like 90% of the things she and her cohorts at feminist frequency come out with but she is entitled to her opinion none the less and I respect her for not backing down, but to my world of games she's irrelevant, she isn't going to cause shaking waves and change the entire industry, they'd never cater their whims to one person or group, though some people do blow it way out of proportion and give her way more attention than she realistically deserves.
 

Sylox

boi...chill out!
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And this is what society is worried about; a clap-trap Jezebel who slept her way to a favorable review. Forget anything else that's fucked up with the world, THIS is what the kids are worried about.
 

Astrium

King of the Noodles
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who slept her way to a favorable review.

I still don't believe that happened.
 

Naesaki

JRPG Fanatic
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I still don't believe that happened.

Something that's so unbelievable turning out to be the truth?, stranger things have happened but the whole idea of that particular scenario happening just seems way too far-fetched. I mean I know the "Casting Couch" thing is a thing but its hard to believe there is a gaming equivalent.
 

Astrium

King of the Noodles
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Something that's so unbelievable turning out to be the truth?, stranger things have happened but the whole idea of that particular scenario happening just seems way too far-fetched. I mean I know the "Casting Couch" thing is a thing but its hard to believe there is a gaming equivalent.

Actually, the Casting Couch thing you see in porn is staged. It would be fuckloads of illegal to do it for real.
 

Naesaki

JRPG Fanatic
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Actually, the Casting Couch thing you see in porn is staged. It would be fuckloads of illegal to do it for real.

The things human's in this society get away with though, it wouldn't be that surprising
 

Kellie Gator

Moral Minority
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I still don't believe that happened.
Neither do I but even if it was true I frankly doubt it's worth any outrage when the game in question was for free. If it was a $60 purchase that'd be different.

I think some gamers just really hate the idea of a woman having sex with someone else than them. ;3
 

Nikolinni

Niko Linni
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And this is what society is worried about; a clap-trap Jezebel who slept her way to a favorable review. Forget anything else that's fucked up with the world, THIS is what the kids are worried about.

I wasn't aware that GamerGate was still concerned with Quinn. I thought they moved on to doing battle against the evil SJWs. Instead of, y'know, doing battle against the video game journalists that're selling out for good reviews and content. Nah, we gotta stop Anita from ruining Mirror's Edge 2 first apparently.
 
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TheMetalVelocity

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I'm just worried about more and more leftists censoring people.
 

Kellie Gator

Moral Minority
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I'm just worried about more and more leftists censoring people.
I'm pretty sure no one's been censored and as for game developers they still have the right to choose wether to accept criticism or not. Someone can complain a game is racist and sexist and the developer doesn't have to do a goddamn thing about it, change.org petitions be damned.

Developers are still in power and call the shots, that's the thing. GGers and similar-minded people don't realize that.
 
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TheMetalVelocity

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I'm pretty sure no one's been censored and as for game developers they still have the right to choose wether to accept criticism or not. Someone can complain a game is racist and sexist and the developer doesn't have to do a goddamn thing about it, change.org petitions be damned.

Developers are still in power and call the shots, that's the thing. GGers and similar-minded people don't realize that.
Except for the fact that they can get sued if they don't cave in to the demands.
 
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