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Why the hate on bronies?

_Ivory_

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I'm in a weird position since I've loved cartoons in general as a kid (courage the cowardly dog, martin mystery, etc.) and continue to love them as an adult. While I don't jump up and down with glee or catapult over a couch to catch my favorite show as I may have once done, I think that the Bronies who do that are also as few and far between. It's kinda like the Rick and Morty fandom. There's some people who are laughably arrogant, but a majority of the fandom just appreciates the show for what it is and what it gives us and that's about it. I think Bronies get a bad reputation for being man or woman children and that's not really fair, especially since like Bronies, Littles will often feel happy when watching cartoons. For those of us who haven't lost that love of them, it just takes us back to a simpler time. Away from the responsibility of adulthood...and that, in essence, is kind of what being a cosplayer/otaku (and, yes, a furry) is as well. It's all about escapism. I'd just like to not see my favorite child friendly pony with sausages up it's butt, please and thank you google images. :p

So in short,

I think the hatred or disgust with bronies isn't much different from any other fandom.
It's all steeped in misunderstanding and misplaced judgement (and a few bad apples).

Plus, google searches don't make it any better.
I typed in "brony" and hit enter, and that's what popped up as the first result.
Those first few pictures....yikes.
No wonder outside people have bad misconceptions.

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I dont share some of the things but yes, you have your point.
 

dragon-in-sight

mane diva
I also don't have a problem with that fanbase. MLP is a well done show, that offers quite some meme qualities. It's quite the same as with Spongebob. Even tho it's a kids show it still offers quite some mature humor.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
Something like "gotcha, I was trolling" but then again, feminism and Poe's law have a special relationship
That's unfortunate.

90% of the examples here have talked about extreme people who make the fandom unbearable for everyone, not just little girls. I am firmly that group of people dedicated to calling out extremists so that everyone can feel safe.

If this makes you somehow jump to "all men are pushing little girls out of the fandom," you may lack the nuance to continue this conversation. Or youre a troll. Or you are looking for me to give you assurance of some sort.

Whatever the case, I get the immpression I get is that you are looking for an axe to grind I'll just leave you to it. I dont know you from wax paper.
 

Ank57

Big Pikachu
I feel like that's just in poor taste at that point. >_>;
But hey, if it exists... *looks at Clippy in rule34* there's unfortunately going to be those people.
If a human can fetishize a paper clip, they're gonna sure as hell fetish something with a hole already included in the design.
Sorry to be graphic but, that's just the kinda depravity that's on the internet. Part of being an adult is, unfortunately, accepting that.
Whether we support it individually is another matter entirely (hence my previous statements of not judging, but not wanting to see either).
Did B-a-B or MLP take any legal action against it (technically it could count as CP due to the fact that you can't draw porn of actual children and said character was based on a real child; i don't know if it would actually work though) or just do nothing?
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
That's unfortunate.

90% of the examples here have talked about extreme people who make the fandom unbearable for everyone, not just little girls. I am firmly that group of people dedicated to calling out extremists so that everyone can feel safe.
Except that's not what you initially said at all, lol. If that's really what you meant it was very poorly worded. But it sounds more like you're backpedalling.
 

Raever

Chaotic Neutral Wreckage
Did B-a-B or MLP take any legal action against it (technically it could count as CP due to the fact that you can't draw porn of actual children and said character was based on a real child; i don't know if it would actually work though) or just do nothing?

I wouldn't know, since I've never looked into the legal matter I can't give opinions on that should the case exist. What I can say with some level of confidence and education is this...

1. An artist of any kind fetishizing a child's cartoon (even if the cartoon is based on a child,) is not automatically the artist fetishizing the child his or herself. While I agree it is absolutely in poor taste as said character does represent the child and his/her struggles, it is not the actual child, and thus this leads to number two...

2. How the legal system handles this can be a long and shaky process, and that is why most companies won't bother taking down a random artist on rule 34 even if they don't support or backup the art created. It's not only a large task that will cost more money than it's worth, but it's ultimately a harmless act (for the most part) legally speaking. So long as it doesn't effectively damage that company brand, they likely don't want to waste their money or time...and since it's not an actual illegal matter, they have no real reason to do so.

I've seen a lot of communities have a lot of talented and amazing safe for work artists, and then have an equal number of not so safe for work artists. It just comes with the territory. Pokemon is a great example of how innocent and dastardly the fandom can be with its fanart.

Poor, poor Pichu...
 

Raever

Chaotic Neutral Wreckage
Two, using the excuse "parents will protect children from nasty middle aged men on the internet" is besides the point. It's giving these "bad apples" as people have been calling them a pass.

I think you misunderstood. I'm not trying to say that parents "will" protect children. I'm saying that "good parents do monitor their children" to a degree, and the bad apples i mentioned weren't towards the fandom, it was towards the parents that let their children frolick on the internet at age six with no supervision for lengthy periods of time. At that point, it's partially the parent's fault their kid got in that situation.

But before I get someone's panties in a twist let me clarify that I'm not blaming parents for the existence of a shit human being. I am however, going to blame Karen if she let's Little Timmy onto Reddit for eight hours a day and doesn't ever check and see who he's talking to. That's just bad parenting no matter how you slice it, and giving said bad community member a chance at your kid because of bad parenting is the equivalent of dressing up your kid and leaving them alone to wander around a Convention floor by themselves. It's not safe, and everyone would judge the parent whilst simultaneously despising anyone who took advantage of said child. I feel the same towards any kids who are given free range of the internet at a young enough age where they can't make decisions for themselves regarding internet safety.

But that's just me.

The majority of this thread thus far has been examples of how these bad apples make the fandom unpleasant for people. From making it difficult to find content you can enjoy, to straight up harassment at cons and other places. I think that speaks for itself.

Yeah I don't think anyone is defending bad members of a community, lol.

The point is people in the fandom need to start holding their peers accountable. To just *try* would be acceptable.
Those who try to make the fandom good for everyone is alright in my book. Those who don't are also just as bad in my book. --And thats been my answer to "why the hate on the bronies" this whole time.

Sounds fair.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
I think you misunderstood. I'm not trying to say that parents "will" protect children. I'm saying that "good parents do monitor their children" to a degree, and the bad apples i mentioned weren't towards the fandom, it was towards the parents that let their children frolick on the internet at age six with no supervision for lengthy periods of time. At that point, it's partially the parent's fault their kid got in that situation.

But before I get someone's panties in a twist let me clarify that I'm not blaming parents for the existence of a shit human being. I am however, going to blame Karen if she let's Little Timmy onto Reddit for eight hours a day and doesn't ever check and see who he's talking to. That's just bad parenting no matter how you slice it, and giving said bad community member a chance at your kid because of bad parenting is the equivalent of dressing up your kid and leaving them alone to wander around a Convention floor by themselves. It's not safe, and everyone would judge the parent whilst simultaneously despising anyone who took advantage of said child. I feel the same towards any kids who are given free range of the internet at a young enough age where they can't make decisions for themselves regarding internet safety.
I agree with you there. It's just the point wasn't parenting, the point was 'bad apples' in the fandom. Hence why I said that really wasn't the point.

Perhaps its a difference in culture, but I believe the community as a whole has to be committed to protecting its members. This includes people who cannot protect themselves. For better or for worse, it seems the same source of bad bronies are approximately the same source of bad people in the furry fandom as well.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
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JuniperW

Birb Fanatic
It's a nice show even though I,ll probably never catch up with it. I loved it in my pre-teen years but never really participated in the fandom.
IMO, people are really closed-minded when it comes to bronies. There's nothing wrong with adults liking things made for kids, and we should really normalise that.
Of course, there are gonna be shitty people in the fandom - but every single fanbase is like that anyway.
 

Vesper2112

Cygnus, Snickers, & Pogo
I've seen the show in passing and it looks well made, so I don't have a problem with the show at all. My teenage daughter (at the time) was into it, but (and this was several years ago) got turned off by the fandom because of bronies. At least, the part of that fandom that was creepers and sexualized everything. It got to where it was hard for her to look for Brony art w/o running across some pretty inappropriate stuff. With that said, to each their own. If you're into that sort of thing, that's cool. No judging here, but I'm just saying that's why my daughter pulled back from the fandom, but still watched the show.
 
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