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XKeyscore Collects 'Nearly Everything You Do Online'

MochiElZorro

Self-Appointed FAF Bitchmuffin
I've looked up porn while underage, and multiple dangerous chemicals, as well as how to create a bomb. Hopefully the govt realizes from the rest of my history that I was researching for my story. 0_0

(Well, some of the porn wasn't exactly research lol, but ideas were definitely created from them)
 

PastryOfApathy

Well-Known Member
Then get into office yourself through one of the parties and rock shit once you're in power. That's my plan, although I probably have an advantage of having family ties with the DFL.

Good luck doing anything once congress rebels since you're not pushing their respective parties agenda.
 

Percy

o-o
I've looked up porn while underage, and multiple dangerous chemicals, as well as how to create a bomb. Hopefully the govt realizes from the rest of my history that I was researching for my story. 0_0

(Well, some of the porn wasn't exactly research lol, but ideas were definitely created from them)
Searching how to create a bomb isn't a smart idea to begin with.
 

Saga

absolutely disgusting
This shit again?
I sighed at least enough to blow out a birthday cake.

The internet is a 'public' place that your info is already being collected on; if you dont want it to be known dont put it online; you're of no interest to the government unless you have bad intentions; ect ect ect
 

Rilvor

Formal when angry
An Eye is upon you.

This is the unfortunate future, and it has been predicted for as long as we have been able to imagine it. There is no stopping it, there is only what we are going to do about it.

And I have no idea.
 

Gryphoneer

20 Quatloos on "disruptive"
Searching how to create a bomb isn't a smart idea to begin with.
Should we now expect mass arrests of crime fiction writers? Or chemistry students?

It's like 2003 all over again and you can get busted for buying too much fertilizer or bringing nail scissors on a plane.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Searching how to create a bomb isn't a smart idea to begin with.

Unless it's a nuclear bomb, which would be beyond the scope of a typical terrorist organisation.

This shit again?
I sighed at least enough to blow out a birthday cake.

The internet is a 'public' place that your info is already being collected on; if you dont want it to be known dont put it online; you're of no interest to the government unless you have bad intentions; ect ect ect

People fairly expect some of their information not to be redistributed, and that if it is being redistributed to be done transparently and, when possible anonymously.

Typing on a message board is something everyone expects to be visible, but there's plenty of other data, such as the content and details of our emails, online banking etc, that we would not expect to be spied upon.
 
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Aleu

Deuces
Dude, this isn't news. This has been around since at least the Patriot Act has been enforced.

Not that I agree with it, but running around screaming "the sky is falling and it's the president's fault!!" when such a thing has been happening FOR A WHILE is just blatant idiocy.

Also I don't agree with the "I have nothing to hide" mentality. Desiring privacy doesn't mean you have something to hide. It just means that you want some god damn "me" time and it's kinda, you know, rude at the very least to assert yourself into someone's life goin' "HEY WHATCHA DOIN?"
It's none of your god damned business now fuck off.
 

Mayfurr

Mostly Harmless

Article said:
But the NSA doesn't collect data on Americans, so this certainly won't happen to you.

The NSA doesn't need to collect data on Americans. The British GCHQ does it for them, then passes the data to the NSA. And the NSA then helpfully passes data it collects on British citizens which GCHQ isn't "allowed" to collect to GCHQ.

So the NSA, GCHQ and the equivalents in Canada, Australia and (goddammit) New Zealand in the "Five Eyes" organisation can swap data between themselves of each other's citizens while saying hand-on-heart that they're not spying on their own people. :roll:
 

Neon Poi

Member
I dare the government to do something with this info. I post about and look up all kinds of sketchy stuff. Come and get me, bitches~
 

Jabberwocky

bitch where
Bottom line, most of us dont even give a rat's ass about being "watched" because we have been living with it for so long. Its easy to forget that our data is collected. Then sometimes we stop and think oh shit this porn I am reading may be in the hands of the government, keep reading, and move on. They can knock themselves out.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
What surprises me is that these governments clearly employ people who have a great amount of technical knowledge about the internet, but then they move to create laws which technicians describe as impossible or pointless.

Do they not talk to each other?
 

Saga

absolutely disgusting
What surprises me is that these governments clearly employ people who have a great amount of technical knowledge about the internet, but then they move to create laws which technicians describe as impossible or pointless.

Do they not talk to each other?
Communication is prohibited and the government is always right.
Everyone knows that :v
 

PastryOfApathy

Well-Known Member
The NSA doesn't need to collect data on Americans. The British GCHQ does it for them, then passes the data to the NSA. And the NSA then helpfully passes data it collects on British citizens which GCHQ isn't "allowed" to collect to GCHQ.

So the NSA, GCHQ and the equivalents in Canada, Australia and (goddammit) New Zealand in the "Five Eyes" organisation can swap data between themselves of each other's citizens while saying hand-on-heart that they're not spying on their own people. :roll:

So what you're saying is that our personal lives are like Pokemon cards.
 

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
Everyone always thought that there has to be a way the government can spy on us. I am not shocked, I am sad that it is actually true...
 

Mayfurr

Mostly Harmless
The internet is a 'public' place that your info is already being collected on;

Except what the NSA et al are doing isn't just a case of casual eavesdropping while walking past you, it's more like having someone standing right next to you (and everyone else) taking note of every thing you do and say. In the non-net world, this would be stalking.

if you dont want it to be known dont put it online

Except that a lot of businesses and government agencies are moving more towards an online model to cut costs and/or increase services, and off-net manual options are being more and more discouraged for efficiency. While off-net options always have to be available, it'll be progressively harder to make use of them.

you're of no interest to the government unless you have bad intentions; ect ect ect

Define "bad intentions", because:

a) no-one is 100% innocent of ANY "wrongdoing" ALL the time (parking tickets, illegal drinking etc), and
b) with sufficient motivation ANYTHING you do can be construed (either through malicious intent or incompetence) as "bad intentions" to somebody- see Nikolinni's link of what happened for a simple search for backpacks and pressure cookers.

I grew up in the 1980s with stories of brave whistle-blowing dissidents in Russia exposing the nefarious activities of a regime intent on prying into every detail of the lives of their citizens to root out "enemies of the state / terrorists", who would flee their country and seek safe haven in the USA -

- but now it seems in the 2010s it's the other way around: brave whistle-blowing dissidents in the USA exposing the nefarious activities of a regime intent on prying into every detail of the lives of their citizens to root out "enemies of the state terrorists", who would flee their country and seek safe haven in... Russia!
 
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