You had one job congress.

[Nikolinni]

Both sides are going after people's freedoms, though they have different target priorities. Republicans want me to be a brain washed religious zealot with no education, democrats want my guns and powerful cars, and both of them want my money. All of it.

AND THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL! >.<

Brainwashed religious zealots? So they're trying to turn us into the Imperium of Man then? I mean granted the Space Marines ARE badass, but that just doesn't seem like the kinda society I'd wanna live in.

Though yeah, I agree. Both sides are kinda just going after different things. I mean speaking of guns, didn't Obama say he wanted to renew the push for more gun control?

Great, so now I have to educate people on what the difference between an automatic assault rifle and semi auto rifle is AGAIN. And talk about how I'd just learn how to use a bolt-action/lever action AGAIN.

 

[TheMetalVelocity]

Both sides are going after people's freedoms, though they have different target priorities. Republicans want me to be a brain washed religious zealot with no education, democrats want my guns and powerful cars, and both of them want my money. All of it.

AND THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL! >.<

I hate how the democrats act like it's the republicans who only want to control people, yet they want us to be a police state. It doesn't matter if they cause another problem as long as it fixes one.

 

[CaptainCool]

See that's why I hate insurance companies. They're pretty much all like that. They will take the money but not pay out and lie through their teeth about coverage. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, but since the statutory health insurance companies are tied to harsher regulations you usually don't have any problems with them at all. As long as you have something that they cover (willingly breaking your leg to get out of work for a few weeks won't get you full funding for example XD), which is almost everything, you have no problems with them at all. You don't even have to handle any paperwork, it's all done for you by the hospital or your doctor.

 

[Fernin]

Brainwashed religious zealots? So they're trying to turn us into the Imperium of Man then? I mean granted the Space Marines ARE badass, but that just doesn't seem like the kinda society I'd wanna live in.

Though yeah, I agree. Both sides are kinda just going after different things. I mean speaking of guns, didn't Obama say he wanted to renew the push for more gun control?

Great, so now I have to educate people on what the difference between an automatic assault rifle and semi auto rifle is AGAIN. And talk about how I'd just learn how to use a bolt-action/lever action AGAIN.

It's simple. There is one, singular thing that makes an 'assault' rifle and 'assault rifle. The discharge of more than one round per pull of the trigger. And that's it. No stock, sight, magazine, foregrip or any other accessory can make a semi auto an assault rifle because it will still never have that one function that makes an assault rifle what it is.

Also, as for the Imperium, there's a funny parallel there with the fact that if the man on the golden toilet saw what the Imperium had become, he'd flip his shit. Just as the founding fathers would if they saw America today since in both cases the nation/empire in question became exactly what their founders did NOT want them to become. XD

 

[Ozriel]

I hate how the democrats act like it's the republicans who only want to control people, yet they want us to be a police state. It doesn't matter if they cause another problem as long as it fixes one.

In all honesty, the Democrats are more like "For the people" and do things that are of interest for the people, both positive and negative.

Republicans want to make sure that everything is balanced with both freedoms and "Conserve" spending on things deemed unnecessary, while trying to preserve the constitution in both positive and negative aspects.

 

[Mayfurr]

Are we all gonna let this place become a totalitarian and socially controlled nation?

So implementing even a half-arsed form of healthcare that is supposed to facilitate ordinary US citizens to have access to the healthcare they need without bankrupting themselves is a step on the road to "totalitarianism"?!?!?!?!?????

Oh dear, how terrible it is that a government actually tries to HELP its citizens. Boo hoo hoo. It's precisely that form of absolutist ideological thinking that got your utterly dysfunctional government into this mess in the first place!

'Course, out of all the possible approaches for some sort of universal healthcare system the US has to choose the one that's most fucked up - and THAT'S because the US is so welded to big business interests even a German-style system like CC describes is rejected as "just not capitalist enough" on ideological grounds. And the irony is of course that "Obamacare" is basically what Republicans proposed as an alternative to the healthcare plans that Clinton planned in the 1990s, but obviously Republican policies are TEH EVILZ if a Democrat implements them. :roll:

 

[Schwimmwagen]

Funny thing about gun control.

Obama commissioned a study on how gun ownership effects crime rates as a whole, and the result bitch-slapped him right in the face.

Yet he's still pushing for control.

 

[Fallowfox]

Funny thing about gun control.

Obama commissioned a study on how gun ownership effects crime rates as a whole, and the result bitch-slapped him right in the face.

Yet he's still pushing for control.

By law he isn't allowed to use data from any studies about guns in order to recommend gun control and there is only $10m federal funding for the issue, which is a gnat's fart.

It's almost good enough to feature in biased-science monthly, but I'm sure complaining that the research is only legally allowed to support guns would be illegal too.

 

[Mayfurr]

And just to show how utterly fucked up the whole US healthcare debate is, it appears that when Americans are asked to choose between "Obamacare" and the "Affordable Care Act", they choose the latter despite both being the same thing.

In his latest stunt, Kimmel sent his "Lie Witness News" camera crew to Hollywood Boulevard to ask people if they were for Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act.

"As you may know, Obamacare is a nickname for the Affordable Care Act, they're the same thing," Kimmel explained to viewers. "But lo and behold we found people who didn't know that - but that didn't stop them from weighing in on it."

Responses were overwhelmingly in support of the Affordable Care Act, and against Obamacare.

/facepalm

 

[Dire Newt]

Not all that surprising. People like to mindlessly hop aboard hate trains because it's easy and they don't have to learn and form opinions of their own.

 

[Inciatus]

And just to show how utterly fucked up the whole US healthcare debate is, it appears that when Americans are asked to choose between "Obamacare" and the "Affordable Care Act", they choose the latter despite both being the same thing.



/facepalm

Most of those shows also search out for people like that who don't have a single clue and people who do are usually edited out. What fun would people who weren't cabbages be?

 

[Reaginicwolf]

the moment congress did this i was like...all fuck, the need to remember that their suppose to be doing whats right for the nation not themselves. i can tell its a downward spiral from here first government employees are effected then everyone else

 

[Troj]

And the irony is of course that "Obamacare" is basically what Republicans proposed as an alternative to the healthcare plans that Clinton planned in the 1990s, but obviously Republican policies are TEH EVILZ if a Democrat implements them. :roll:

Bill Maher refers to this maneuver as the "Kenyan boomerang," or "blacktracking."

If that evil Muslim atheist Socialist n....n....n....ne'er-do-well is for it, it MUST BE BAD!

 

[Ikrit]

that health care looks pretty good when you are dying of an illness you can't afford to cure

 

[CaptainCool]

that health care looks pretty good when you are dying of an illness you can't afford to cure

Compared to going bankrupt or dying because your teeth need proper treatment then it certainly does look pretty good, don't it? XD
BUT NOPE! The demos want it so the repooblaicans can't have it. So let's just block the entire fucking government and dump the whole country right back into recession of worse comes to worst! YUP! GOOD PLAN!

Oh fuck, can you imagine how much Romney would have fucked up the US if he had been elected and the reps would be acting like they are acting now? XD

 

[Mayfurr]

BUT NOPE! The demos want it so the repooblaicans can't have it. So let's just block the entire fucking government and dump the whole country right back into recession of worse comes to worst! YUP! GOOD PLAN!

The US has basically shown itself right now to be at its core a "failed state" with no credible functioning government. A failed state with a massive military and nuclear weapons.

And THIS is the self-proclaimed "leader of the 'free world'"? Fuck that.

 

[Reaginicwolf]

The US has basically shown itself right now to be at its core a "failed state" with no credible functioning government. A failed state with a massive military and nuclear weapons.

And THIS is the self-proclaimed "leader of the 'free world'"? Fuck that.

its sad anit it, when i was younger i was raise to believe that the U.S was the greatest, but as i grew older and my mind more open i see how messed up the government is.

 

[Schwimmwagen]

its sad anit it, when i was younger i was raise to believe that the U.S was the greatest, but as i grew older and my mind more open i see how messed up the government is.

I think this applies to all countries, really.

 

[Cynicism]

Oh fuck, can you imagine how much Romney would have fucked up the US if he had been elected and the reps would be acting like they are acting now? XD

Please God, no.

 

[Fernin]

I think this applies to all countries, really.

Impossible! Don't you know! Every other nation is a utopian paradise compared to the evil United States, and its evil military that sends thousands of American soldiers to die for other nations, its evil world industry supporting consumer market, and its evil nuclear weapons each lovingly inscribed with the names of your friends and families babies and pet dogs! Don't you know the governments of every other nation is perfectly functional and free of hypocrisy, corruption, and manipulative ne'er do wells! Only the US could harbor such vileness wickedness! It couldn't have ANYTHING to do with people wanting to ignore their own government's doing the same things and instead spending all their time blaming the US because since falling on hard times after being such a crushingly successful nation makes it an easy target for the spiteful! Never! Such a notion would be absurd! ABSURD I SAY! *cackles and runs about in circles waving various " Nation 'X' is better than the US!" and "Hahah America sucks and I'm happy about it!" flags*

 

[Schwimmwagen]

Impossible! Don't you know! Every other nation is a utopian paradise compared to the evil United States, and its evil military that sends thousands of American soldiers to die for other nations, its evil world industry supporting consumer market, and its evil nuclear weapons each lovingly inscribed with the names of your friends and families babies and pet dogs! Don't you know the governments of every other nation is perfectly functional and free of hypocrisy, corruption, and manipulative ne'er do wells! Only the US could harbor such vileness wickedness! It couldn't have ANYTHING to do with people wanting to ignore their own government's doing the same things and instead spending all their time blaming the US because since falling on hard times after being such a crushingly successful nation makes it an easy target for the spiteful! Never! Such a notion would be absurd! ABSURD I SAY! *cackles and runs about in circles waving various " Nation 'X' is better than the US!" and "Hahah America sucks and I'm happy about it!" flags*

...I'm talking about how most children are raised believing their birth country to be the best there is.

 

[Inciatus]

...I'm talking about how most children are raised believing their birth country to be the best there is.

Well even so both would seem to still apply.

 

[Fernin]

...I'm talking about how most children are raised believing their birth country to be the best there is.

I know. I'm just channeling Mayfurr a bit, trying it on for size. You know I've actually tried to imagine him spending a moment without fuming in rage about a nation he doesn't live in. I find I can't do it. X3

 

[Schwimmwagen]

I know. I'm just channeling Mayfurr a bit, trying it on for size. You know I've actually tried to imagine him spending a moment without fuming in rage about a nation he doesn't live in. I find I can't do it. X3

whoopsie-daisy, muh bad.

In all honesty I can't say I'm a fan of the USA for many many reasons but I do think that the dislike for the USA is a bit... exaggerated. There's a lot of good to come out from there, and everyone's shit stinks anyway.

 

[Fernin]

whoopsie-daisy, muh bad.

In all honesty I can't say I'm a fan of the USA for many many reasons but I do think that the dislike for the USA is a bit... exaggerated. There's a lot of good to come out from there, and everyone's shit stinks anyway.

Believe me, I live here so I know how it is right at the source. XD

I love my nation to death. Hell I'd die for it if there was genuinely the need. But holy fucking damn do I HATE my government right now. Alot of people like to forget the two aren't the same thing.